"Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judah and his brethren;
And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
And Jesse begat David the king; "
Now let's take the names and look at their meaning. As we do this, let the Spirit lead you and allow him to speak.
Name: Meaning
Abraham: father of a multitude
Isaac: he laughs
Jacob: heel catcher
Judah: the praised one
Pharez: a breach, division or rupture, broken through
Esrom: enclosed, Dart of joy, division of a song
Eram: high, paradise, landmark marking the correct direction
Aminadab: one of the princes people, the kinsman
Naasson: enchanter, one who seeks or reveals knowledge of the future or the unknown by supernatural means.
Salmon: raiment or garment, that holds wholeness or peacefulness.
Boaz: in him is strength
Obed: serving or servant, bondage
Jesse: wealthy man, husband
David: beloved
Put together, could this message mean.
"The Father, of many, laughs at the heel catcher. The Praised One has broken through.
Is God, our Father, laughing at Satan, as referenced in Genesis 3:15, because the Promised Messiah has arrived?
"Enclosed, but bursting out in joy, to mark the correct direction to Paradise."
Is this a reference to the Messianic earthly arrival through the womb of a woman, pointing the way to salvation?
"A Royal Kinsmen, the one who reveals knowledge of the future and the unknown, by supernatural means."
Is this referencing to the Messiah as a Son of Man, with supernatural abilities?
"A clothing that holds wholeness or peace."
Is this a reference to the Messiah being a covering of our sins, resulting in our eternal peace and completeness with God?
"In Him is Strength, an obedient servant, a Man/Husband of the Beloved."
Finally, does this mean that the Messiah is strong enough to be completely obedient until death, resulting in him being the beloved Bridegroom of all believers?
I think you know my answer to all these questions, what do you say?
Every time I see one of these messages, I am awestruck at how amazing God is. Why am I surprised? Shouldn't we expect this from a supernatural God?
Shalom!
Keith,
ReplyDeleteI have always believed that there are many hidden things in scripture, and yes it could be all these names foretell of the future Messiah and His purpose. The meanings certainly speak of this when placed together. I too never cease to be amazed at what God does, and is capable of, even concerning His supernatural presence in my own life.
It comes to mind how, in the latter days knowledge shall be increased.
Hi Brenda,
ReplyDeleteI believe that all things are for our edification. I also believe that God's Word is so dynamic and has many levels of understanding, that it can have a specific message for the edification of one specific believer while the same passage could be used to communicate to another.
I, also, agree that this is one avenue that God will increase knowledge in the latter days, which makes it exciting to possibly be the generation that will see the return of the Messiah.
Amen to everything you have said here Keith, I look forward to any other revelations the Lord may give you.
DeleteOK brother Keith, I know that I always sound controversial, but I think that being controversial for the sake of controversial is sin, but being controversial for the sake of truth is the divine will of God.
ReplyDeleteYou said, "Is this a reference to the Messiah being a covering of our sins, resulting in our eternal peace and completeness with God?"
Well, Jesus didn't cover any sins at all, he REMOVED our sins!
If my sins would have been covered, I would not have eternal peace; because, what has been covered can be UN-covered.
But the Lord Jesus did a lot better than that my friend.
He has taken my sins to the cross and suffered the consequences of my sins, and by His blood my sins have been washed away, cleansed, wither than snow, removed and never to be found again; only that gives me eternal peace.
Hey Paul, I know that we make jabs at each other from time to time, but it out of our friendship, not animosity.
ReplyDeleteWith that said, I know of no verses where our sins are washed away. However, there are plenty of references where the sacrifices cover our sins and the forgiveness thereof. I also no that God remembers them no more after we confess and ask forgiveness.
Finally, our eternal Peace comes with salvation. Eternal Rest comes with the resurrection.
Paul,
ReplyDeletethere are many 'ifs' involved in salvation:-
'But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanses us from all sin.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness'
1 John ch. 1 vs. 7-9.
Just to add, Hebrews ch. 10 vs. 26 and 27 say
ReplyDeleteFor if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Brenda, Amen to what you have written here. Everyday, I thank God for one of my most favorite verses, 1John 1:7-9, the Believers bar of soap. :-)
ReplyDeleteI still cry when I think of what Jesus did to redeem us, and the love that God has for us. I was in a dark place and was brought into the light, and all I want to do is tell of this love to those who are where I was, and because I have been there I have empathy with them. Thank God for Jesus through whom I have become a child of God.
DeleteI'm with you on that. I believe hat crying is the natural body's response to the groaning of the spirit that dwells within us. How can you not shed a tear when you think about what Jesus went through to save us, knowing that he did not deserve any of it but yet voluntarily went through it for you and me?
DeleteYes I know that brother Keith, but those stabs as you have said are necessary for our maturity in Christ Jesus our Lord.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad that none of us are offended, perhaps that shows that we all are mature enough to handle the word of truth.
The Lord Jesus commands us to love one another just as He loves us, and love is not easily offended. Because we don't agree with each other, that does not mean that we don't love each other.
What we are doing, should be done in all the Churches, so that the body of Christ would grow to full maturity and not be tossed around with every wind of doctrine. The problem is that most brothers avoid those meaty debates for the sake of unity, and little do they know what they are missing out.
You said, "I also no that God remembers them no more after we confess and ask forgiveness."
Well brother, it is not possible for God to forget things, or not to remember. He surely remembers our sins, but He will not hold our sins AGAINST us, because they have been atoned for on the cross of Calvary.
You see, in our preaching, we should not diminish the Lord our God Jesus Christ, but exalt Him in everything we say.
Yes Brenda, there are to many 'ifs', but they are there for us to think and to judge from true or false.
ReplyDeleteYou said. "Thank God for Jesus through whom I have become a child of God."
Reading a statement like that I need to ask you, which God do you thank for Jesus?
Why is it so hard for you to understand that you can NOT become a child to anyone, not even to God.
If it is impossible for you to become a child to the Queen of England, what makes you think that you can become a child to the living God Jesus Christ??
Don't you believe the Scriptures? Ephesians 1:4 you were in Christ BEFORE the foundation of the World.
It troubles me that you can't see that and that you don't believe the Scriptures.
Paul, John 1 vs. 12 and 13 :-
ReplyDelete'But as many as received Him, TO THEM HE GAVE THE RIGHT TO BECOME CHILDREN OF GOD, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.'
Yes Paul, I do believe that I was in Christ before the foundation of the world, and Ephesians ch. 1 vs. 3-5 expound on this, and tell me which God I thank for Jesus. It is the Father of our Lord Jesus.
'Blessed be THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,'
After my 'near death experience when I was twenty eight, where I was taken to an indescribable place that I knew I had been in before I was born, I grieved for seven years until I became born again of God's Holy Spirit and read this in 2 Corinthians ch. 12 v. 2:-
' I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago-- whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- such a man was caught up to the third heaven.'
Then I was comforted as I knew that was where I had been.
and where you say:- 'It troubles me that you can't see that and that you don't believe the Scriptures.' I believe ALL scripture, and I do not add or take away from those scriptures Paul.
So then, you do believe that you could NOT have become a child of God, Brenda?
ReplyDeleteIt's obvious, you were in Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world.
And don't be derailed because of John 1:12-13, that is a statement and it says the same as I have said.
The first part is the statement and the second part is the explanation how a child of God is born.
Note, NOT by your will or anything you do, but because you were in Christ before the foundation of the world.
You said, "Blessed be THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, who hath blessed us..........."
Brenda, please think about that passage.
If Jesus has a Father, then the Scriptures are NOT true. Hebrews 7:3 says that Jesus has no father or mother or genealogy etc.
Isaiah 9:6 says that Jesus is the Father, and in John 10:30 Jesus said that He is the Father and John 14;9 and may other passages.
Tell me Brenda, how many passages will it take till you would believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord God the Almighty, the Father and creator of all things??
Doesn't plain intelligence tell you that if the Lord Jesus Christ is the creator of heaven and earth, and in that regard He cannot have a GOD and a FATHER?
Is it the Lord Jesus Christ who has blessed us? Or is it the God and Father who has blessed us? Or is it both?
Can't you see, it is a metaphorical statement, saying that God has blessed us in Jesus Christ.
You said, "I believe ALL scripture, and I do not add or take away from those scriptures Paul."
No Brenda, you don't believe all Scriptures, and you add and take away as it suits you.
But what you need to do is to rightly divide the word of truth (2Tim. 2:15).
I do believe all scripture Paul However, as I have told you before, I believe that the Bible is not a 'book', it is a vocabulary. Once a person has become born again of God's Holy Spirit those scriptures are highlighted at specific times in that person's life, becoming a voice that will teach us, and transform us into the image of His Son, giving that person understanding as they grow in the body of Christ.
ReplyDeleteRomans ch. 8 vs. 28 - 30 explain this:-
'And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified'
As a man thinks so he is, and it is the Spirit of God that makes us like God, not a physical body. Jesus was the firstborn from the dead, the dead referring to the fleshly body. The Spirit that He was born of was the Spirit of God, we too are born of that Spirit when we believe in Him. He is the Word of God (Who is Spirit) made flesh. God is Spirit and Jesus was His Word made flesh, through Whom we are taught, being our mediator, and through Whom we are able to be reconciled back to God after being separated from His presence through the disobedience of Adam who 'ate' from the 'tree' of knowledge of good AND evil.
The things of God are foolishness to the carnal mind:-
'But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.' 1 Corinthians ch. 2 v. 14
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ReplyDeleteJust to add Paul, God sees the end from the beginning, we do not:-.
ReplyDelete'having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,' Ephesians ch. 1 v. 5
Regarding what you have said to me here:-
'So then, you do believe that you could NOT have become a child of God, Brenda?
It's obvious, you were in Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world.'
'For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified'
As I have already told you Paul, it was through my 'near death experience' that I knew I had been in what the Bible calls 'the third heaven' - Paradise, before I was born, and I believe, as is prophesied in Daniel ch. 12 vs. 3 and 4,
'Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
and that is what is happening now.
I do understand metaphors Paul, as in those who have insight being as 'stars', and I also understand that Jesus also spoke plainly as in John ch. 16 v. 29:-
'Then Jesus' disciples said, "Now you are speaking clearly and without figures of speech.'
Brenda, because we are called 'gods', that doesn't make us God (Deity).
ReplyDeleteThe Bible says that JESUS Christ is the ONLY TRUE GOD (1 John 5:20 + Jer. 10:10 and many more).
But you are saying that another is the true God by the name of Yahweh.
The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the creator of heaven and earth and not this unknown god called Yahweh.
Jesus Christ is NOT a god next to a BIG GOD called 'Father, Yahweh or whatever.
Any other entity next to Jesus Christ who claims to be God is a imposter the devil.
And Jesus is not only a mighty God, He is the ALMIGHTY GOD, the creator of heaven and earth and beside Him is NO OTHER!
If you believe in another, you are transgressing the first and second commandment of the Lord and you need to make sure that you are not rejecting the cornerstone which is Jesus Christ and replace Him with another god called Yahweh.
Concerning, God speaking to me.
From the moment I was born again, the Lord Jesus spoke to me and I heard His voice for the first time and I called Him 'Abba Father' and from there on Jesus is always speaking to me just like a Father is speaking to His son.
Even the unbelievers know that. One of my neighbors, a unbeliever called me and said, 'I know that God is speaking to you, but he (God) doesn't speak to his other neighbor who claimed to be a Christian.'
Brenda, who do you think is speaking to you? Paul G.?
Who am I?
Perhaps the voice of the living God Jesus Christ of Nazareth calling you back to Himself.
Isn't that the ministry of reconciliation? To be reconciled to the ONLY God Jesus Christ.
Whatever you say Paul,
ReplyDeleteJesus is the Word of God, and just like my word is part of me so too is Jesus, who was born of the Spirit, is part of God, who is Spirit. That is how God was able to communicate with us, it is very simple. We shall all be one with God. I can not teach you any more than you can teach me Paul, for 'No man shall say 'Know the Lord,' they shall all be taught by God'.
You still have not given me a testimony of when and what God spoke to you.
ReplyDeleteBrenda, if you say it like that, then God becomes an unknowable God and who can ever know Him?
ReplyDeleteAnd that makes the Lord Jesus Christ NOT the only God but only a part or an attachment of this unknowable God whom you call Yahweh.
You said, "You still have not given me a testimony of when and what God spoke to you."
I'm not sure what you mean, I think that you have a presupposition here. It looks like that you think that God speaks only occasional to His children, but that is not so with me, He always speaks to me and He is in constant communication with me and I recognize His voice, and when I hear any other voice I do not believe them or go after them. The Father is greater than I, and I say the things which my Father says to say, even to you.
I know my Father who is in heaven and I know Him by Name (JESUS), and for that reason I am not an orphan but a son, a son of the living God Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
It's possible that the Lord speaks to many people in different ways, but to me He speaks plainly. He does not play mind games or guessing games with me, nor does He speak to me through impressions or events, and neither does He speak to me through a person who claims to be the Word (whatever that means).
The Bible to me is the WRITTEN Word of my Lord, and it is for those who don't hear His voice and for those who have gone astray, and also for correction in doctrine and conduct.
I do not play religion or bung on any spirituality, therefore I need My Lord to speak to me plainly, or else I can't hear Him or understand Him, and if I can't hear Him, I can't tell you what He has said.
I have clearly and plainly told you what He has said, that you need to turn away from this other god called Yahweh, and back again to the Lord Jesus Christ who has bought you with His blood. You belong to Jesus Christ and not to Yahweh.
And you don't have the right to believe what you like to believe if you claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ.
In the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ there are no lone Rangers, and we all ought to present the Lord Jesus Christ to be the King and God in His Kingdom.
You say that you believe in Jesus Paul, yet you don't appear to believe what He says about the Father, Whom Jesus is seated at the right hand of, and the fact that we too are seated with Jesus in those heavenly places.
ReplyDeleteEphesians ch. 2 vs. 4 - 6:-
But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
As far as an example of Jesus speaking to you is concerned Paul, I just wanted to hear part of your testimony, as I shared part of mine in several posts on my blog, such as when my friend and myself were attending a church gathering in Bridgend and the pastor there said they wanted people to go to visit prisoners in Cardiff prison. We had been shown continuously about 'setting the prisoners free' and other scriptures to bring us to believe that the Lord wanted us to visit the prison. The pastor turned us down, and we sought the Lord over it, Who kept showing us the scripture 'I have set before you an open door' Rev. ch. 3 v. 8. We went to Cardiff and while in the market there I went into the ladies' toilets there. I went to put money in the door and a girl said. 'I just put money in there and the door would not open. My money had already been put in and the door opened. When I came out, another person put money in and the door would not open. We were accepted as visitors on the lifers' wing in the prison and had a wonderful time evangelizing.
That is what I would like you to share Paul, a small part of your testimony of your time serving the Lord
Brenda, that is a nice testimony and I'm sure that you were very encouraged. The Lord does encourage us and the world with signs and wonders of His marvelous ways.
ReplyDeleteBut experiences do not validate the belief in the true God which is Jesus Christ.
All Spiritualist's, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Muslims, Buddhists, Satanists, Hare Krishna and most Christian church people have their spiritual experiences, but that doesn't mean that their god is the true God.
Before I was born again I had many spiritual experiences, but that didn't mean that I knew God. In fact I didn't know the creator of heaven and earth, I only heard ABOUT Him but I didn't KNOW Him personally.
It is one thing to know about God and it is another thing to KNOW Him.
I now can say that I know Him because I met Him, it is the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who appeared to me nearly two thousand years after His ascension.
I have been walking very closely with my Lord for 33 years and during that time numerous signs and wonders have occurred, I mean supernatural signs and wonders, not just little things which could be naturally explained.
My heavenly Father Jesus Christ is the creator of heaven and earth and everything in it, and I do not expect little things from Him but mighty things just as He has demonstrated during His incarnation and His ministry on earth.
The Lord Jesus Christ has not stopped to perform signs and wonders, He now performs them through everyone who believes in Him including me.
The reason I have not shared my experiences on the blog is that they are to long and it would takes too many pages and the Lord Jesus Christ has called me to be His Ambassador or His representative.
As you can see that most of my posts are on the deity of Jesus Christ.
Brenda, you said, "You say that you believe in Jesus Paul, yet you don't appear to believe what He says about the Father, Whom Jesus is seated at the right hand of, and the fact that we too are seated with Jesus in those heavenly places."
The best way to understand those terms or passages are, if you first start with the Lord Jesus Christ.
If the Lord Jesus is the creator of all things, then it is impossible for Him to sit at another gods right hand. There cannot be two God's, and if you think that God is Spirit, then Jesus could not sit at the right hand of a spirit, since a spirit doesn't have hands and neither do they need hands.
Remember, there is only one God and that is the Father (1 Cor. 8:6), Jesus sitting at the right hand of the Father is a metaphoric term, meaning that Jesus is the Father and that He has all authority in the flesh here on earth to do whatever pleases Him. As for us, we are NOT the Father, but we have a Father and that is Jesus Christ, and we are in Him ruling and raining on earth and in heavenly places.
Heavenly places are the realm of the spirit or the domain of the spirit.
Brenda, before I became born again, I could not see that realm and neither could I function in it, but now I see it and I'm able to function and pulling down any strongholds etc.
And that GRACE in salvation you are talking about is the new birth, it is saved from being spiritually dead unto eternal life of the spirit. It doesn't speak of a natural salvation as being saved from the mouth of a shark etc. well, I don't have a problem if you think that natural salvation is by grace, I only object if you you think that it is always ONLY by grace.
Remember, I maintain the position that (natural) salvation is by works.
I do not understand Paul that you cannot understand that Jesus, the Word made flesh and the first born of all creation, was the man who was born as the first Son of God, the first of many brethren, because He was born of the Spirit. Yes, He was the creator of Heaven and Earth because He was the Word of God made flesh and the way that God brought things into existence was through 'speaking' them into existence:-
ReplyDelete'And God SAID, Let there be light: and there was light.' Genesis ch. 1 v.3 on the first day
'And God SAID, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.' Genesis ch. 1 v6 on the second day,
until He got to the sixth day when He said ' Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:'
That word 'man' in that verse is plural, and who do you think the 'our' is Paul?
It is not coincidence that the first Adam fell into a deep sleep and 1 Corinthians ch. 15 vs. 17 and 18 say:-
'and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished'
Where Jesus says 'Today and tomorrow I do cures, the third day I shall be perfected'
I believe absolutely that Jesus is speaking spiritually with regards to one day being a thousand years with God (2 Peter ch. 3 v.8), where for the past two thousand years He has been the mediator (being God's Word) between man and God and that His church, His body ( the body of Christ) is being formed, and close to being perfected.
As for not being able to share part of your testimony because it would be too long Paul, there was much more to the testimony I shared, but I cut it down. I am sure you could with yours too. I would just like to hear a little of an example of how He spoke to you and what scripture He spoke to you through.
No Brenda, it's not like that.
ReplyDeleteJesus is not the word, He is not some kind of attachment to God or some kind of offspring of God. No Brenda, that would be religious nonsense.
Don't make it complicated, just keep it simple.
In the beginning was 'GOD', and we know that it is the Lord Jesus Christ who created all things, therefore that 'GOD' is the Lord Jesus.
'God' is not a name but a title, so therefore that title belongs to Jesus.
You see, very simple.
It is important that we do not prematurely read things into the text which are not there, and especially we have to make sure that we do not demote the Lord Jesus Christ and elevate another. Or remove the glory which belongs to Jesus Christ and give that glory to another.
The glory of ALL creation belongs to no other than Jesus Christ.
It is an insult to the creator of heaven and earth to say and teach that He has a Father, or a mother, or a God. No, He is the FIRST and the LAST and there is no other!
Genesis 1:26, here again, we should not read into the text something it doesn't say.
From verse 24 on is the sixth 24 hour day of the Lords creation and it has nothing to do with a thousand year theory.
Note, everything has been created, all the beasts of the field, but one of the beast was different to all other beasts, that beast was more crafty than all other beasts of the field (Gen. 3:1) which the Lord Jesus Christ has made.
Obviously that beast was the only one beast who could speak, reason and seduce etc. and man was not yet made.
In that circumstance the Lord Jesus said, "Let US make man in OUR image".
It is not difficult to see and believe that the Lord Jesus Christ spoke to the serpent (Gen. 1:26) because there were only two who could speak and two who could make things, the Lord and the serpent and nobody else, and it is the Lord Jesus who created the serpent different to all other beasts of the field for a purpose.
And Genesis 1:26 explains the purpose.
2 Peter 3:8, is the same, don't read too quickly something into the text it doesn't say.
Many mighty men of God used that text to predict the coming of the Lord and have miserably failed.
To me it simply means that the Lord is not slow concerning His promise, giving everybody enough time to repent.
That is also for you and Keith and anyone else who reads that comment.
You should NOT be found at the return of the Lord believing in another god called Yahweh, therefore the Lord Jesus Christ is calling you to repent and to ditch that god you call Yahweh, he is a hindrance to you and a deceiver who leads you astray.
Concerning my testimony; yes I considered to write a post, but I try to keep my posts as short as I can and direct to the point.
ReplyDeleteIt is nothing worse than reading lengthy posts and most people can't be bothered about it.
Personal testimonies are better face to face in small groups or in public meetings.
As for me, I did not have a short encounter with my Lord, but a dramatic change of my life, or better, I died to my former life and I received a new life from the dead, to be born again just as the Lord has said in (John 3:3).
Remember the song of John Newton, 'Amazing grace that saved a wretch like me, I once was blind but now I see …......', that song to me became experience and not some words only on paper.
I did not get saved in a church or in a church assembly but in a meadow near my house.
My salvation is a dramatic change of my life in every regard, not just a few Scriptures that Lord has dealt with me.
Just one of my testimonies would fill many pages, and I think it's not the right time.
Brenda, it would be too much to share all that has happened and it continually does happen, that is because I believe in an all powerful God Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
It is better for me to win you and Keith to believe also in Jesus Christ just as I do, that is the commission the Lord has given me to do.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteIt is obvious you are not going to share what I am asking you to share, even a small part of how the Lord has spoken to you. As for YHWH, it is the English translation of the name that the Israelites used for God, Who led them out of Egypt. Jesus is the English translation of the Word of God made flesh, in the form of the man Jesus, of Whom it is prophesied in Isaiah ch. 7 vs. 14 - 16:-
'Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good. For before the boy will know enough to refuse evil and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken.'
which is confirmed in Matthew ch. 1 v.23:-
"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us").
As far as being the Word of God is concerned:-
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God' John 1 v.1
Just like the word that I speak is me when I truly speak as I think, but if I do not speak according to what I think then I am not speaking truth. So too Jesus had to be born of God's Spirit, not of man's spirit, in order to speak God's truth, so that we might also, through believing on Jesus, be born of that same Spirit. For Jesus said in John ch. 6 v. 63:-
'It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.'
That is why the flesh part of Jesus was destroyed, as a sacrifice. It was the Spirit in the man Jesus that was God, the flesh was not
Brenda, that is NOT true, you are believing a LIE!
ReplyDelete'YHWH' is NOT the English translation for God, YHWH are four letters of the alphabet which cannot be translated, and nobody in the whole world can translate that because it has no vowels, it's not possible to say it or speak it.
Not even the Israelites can say it.
Please think about it, and don't buy into every blatant lie the devil promotes.
And 'Jesus' is NOT a translation. Jesus is a NAME.
Jesus is the only one NAME of God.
God never had another Name.
Again Brenda, which Lord will give you a sign?
Is there another Lord other than Jesus?
It is obvious that you don't believe that Lord of the Old Testament is the same Lord of the New Testament. Is Jesus the Lord or not? Or is Jesus a little Lord?
Remember, the Lord your God changes NOT! He is the same yesterday, today and for ever.
(Isa. 6:14) Is the Lord Jesus speaking about Himself.
And don't make John 1:1 complicated.
John 1:1 simply means that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth and nothing more.
Verse 5 tells us, that darkness cannot understand that, in other words, those who are in spiritual darkness are unable to see or comprehend.
Verse 13 tells us, that only those who are born again are able to see and understand and believe.
Brenda, I expect you to believe.
You said, "That is why the flesh part of Jesus was destroyed, as a sacrifice. It was the Spirit in the man Jesus that was God, the flesh was not."
I don't like the way you say that.
Why can't you say, 'the flesh part of GOD' ?
It was GOD who was clothed in flesh and became a man, it wasn't a MAN who was clothed with God and became God.
It is not possible to see a spirit with our natural eyes, and God is a Spirit, therefore we only can see God when He is in a body of flesh, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Jesus Christ is the Lord God whether He is in a body (flesh) or not.
And the Lord Jesus Christ is the Spirit whether He was clothed in flesh or not (2 Cor.3:17).
And neither was the Lord Jesus Christ only partly God.
It troubles me immensely that you don't believe in Jesus Christ.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteWhere you say:-'YHWH' is NOT the English translation for God, I did not say this, and I think you may read my comments in the same way that you appear to read the Bible. I said ' As for YHWH, it is the English translation OF THE NAME THAT THE ISRAELITES USED FOR GOD, Who led them out of Egypt.'
There is far more to God's name than we could ever imagine, and 'Jesus' is also an English translation of the original name.
As for what God looks like:-
'Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knows us not, because it knew him not.
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS.'
It was the WORD of God that was made flesh Paul and yes, the Lord Jesus is the Spirit, and through believing in Jesus we become one in Him and with God, as Jesus states in John ch. 17 vs.20 - 22:-
'Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gave me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: '
That US is the Word of God made flesh who, in the beginning, was with God and was God, and even though I may not understand it with my carnal mind I understand it fully with the mind of Christ.
It could not be made more plain Paul. I adore my Lord Jesus, and I do whatever He tells me to do in evangelizing in the streets with what He has given me to evangelize with to those who hopefully will believe on Him through what I preach.
Tell me about what happened in the meadow Paul, I am interested, it should not take many pages to write about that one incident
Brenda, you said, "YHWH, it is the English translation of the name that the Israelite's used for God,"
ReplyDeleteAnd I said, YHWH is NOT not the English translation for God. And neither is it an English translation of the original name whatever you think that original name is.
No one can translate YHWH into a name, not even the Israelite's, and neither can you.
You are supposed to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and NOT the Israelite's.
The Scriptures (the Bible) is supposed to be the authority over the Israelite's, but history will tell that they didn't believe the Scriptures to this very day. I am speaking about natural Israel and not the elect whom the Lord Jesus Christ has chosen out of the nation of Israel.
Israel makes the same mistake as you, or, perhaps I should say that you follow in the same mistake and unbelief as the Israelite's did in the wilderness even to this very day.
They always turned away from the Lord, and when He came to His own (the Israelite's), they received Him not, but rejected Him and crucified Him.
If they would have known that the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the ONLY God of all creation, they would not have rejected Him.
But as for you, DON'T follow the Israelite's!
They have rejected the cornerstone which is Jesus Christ and build their own religion.
You said, "FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS."
Yes Brenda, but when will you see Him as He is?
When you are dead?
Don't you think it's NOW time for you see Him as He is?
You said, "and through believing in Jesus we become one in Him and with God, as Jesus states in John ch. 17 vs.20 – 22:-"
Well, even the demons believe in God (James 2:19), and certainly they do not become one with God the creator of heaven and earth.
The reason you don't understand John chapter 17 is because you don't believe that Jesus Christ is the Lord God the Almighty come in flesh.
I know that you are very evangelistic Brenda, but you need to preach Jesus Christ as 'God', or else you have labored in vain.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteit is obvious that whatever anyone says to you, for I have seen some of the conversations you have had on your other posts, you will have an argument with them that is not scripture based - and you will not listen to what they are actually saying. You also appear to argue with what Jesus is saying.
The only thing that remains for me to say to you is to do whatever you feel the Lord is telling you to do. That word is your judge:-
'If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak' (John ch. 12 vs. 47-49)
Farewell.
Brenda, you said, "The only thing that remains for me to say to you is to do whatever you feel the Lord is telling you to do. That word is your judge:-"
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning, that is exactly what the woman did, she did what her 'FEELING' is telling her and not what the Lord Jesus has said.
The Lord Jesus told her, that He and the Father are one (John 10:30), but her FEELINGS told her that Jesus and the Father are TWO.
Perhaps, that's the reason why deception is at the heart of the woman (1 Tim 2:14).
I'm not saying that man cannot be deceived, but the man of God believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and NOT in his feelings.
Look around you Brenda, all those women pastors and Reverends and teachers in most churches, all claim to believe the Scriptures, they even pretend to teach the Scriptures, but I can assure you that not one of them believes the Scriptures.
Perhaps I should say that again, NOT even ONE of those women priests believes the Scriptures!
It's a shame, isn't it?
I surely would like to talk to them. Interestingly they don't want to talk to me.
The Lord Jesus told me, that they are not listening to me because they don't listen to Him.
After all, I'm His representative.
I do not make disciples unto myself, but I try to convince everyone to repent of their false gods and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved from this evil and wicked generation.
The door is still open for you Brenda and also for brother Keith and anyone else who reads this comment.
Please join me on the narrow way which is Jesus Christ (John 14:6), any other way leads you to destruction and it doesn't matter how you feel.
Just make a decision Brenda.
Do not harden your heart and don't worry what anyone thinks.
Make a public confession just as I do.
It would be an honour for me to work beside you shoulder to shoulder as Ambassadors for Jesus Christ who is God over ALL (Rom. 9:5).
It is interesting, that Paul said, that he has espoused us to ONE bridegroom, meaning to ONE God (2 Cor. 11:2 'that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.'
ReplyDeleteBut in the apostasy we can see that most churches who supposed to be the bride of the Lord Jesus Christ have an affair, a relationship with another god next to the Lord Jesus Christ, a god called Jehovah or Yahweh.
I wonder whether their clergy would know what spiritual adultery is?
Of course, that is a broad statement.
1# .They either believe that Jehovah ALONE is 'God', and Jesus is just a son (the Son of God), and they worship Jehovah.
2#. And then we have the trinitarians, who believe that the God of all creation is made up of three persons and all those three god-persons together are ONE God, or this one 'God' (whoever that may be) has revealed himself in three separate persons, and therefore they worship all three persons.
3#. And the disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ believe that the God of the Bible and of all creation is the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He alone is the Lord God Almighty who came in flesh and lived among us, and beside Him is NO other, therefore His disciples worship only Jesus Christ the Lord.
4#. However it is possible for some individuals to disregard 1#. 2#. and 3#. and believe in their own personal pet deity, the works of their hands, an imaginary god, or Satan etc.
And others might disregard any God or gods and claim that there is no God.
I agree with the Bible, the fool says in his heart, there is no God (Ps. 53:1).
So the question is, who do YOU worship??
The Lord Jesus Christ spoke through the mouth of the prophet Jeremiah saying (3:1), 'but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers.....' (the trinity, Jehovah, Yahweh, etc.), (v.14) 'for I am married unto you …...'(the bride of Christ), (v.19) 'and I said, Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me.' (v.4) 'Wilt thou not from this time cry unto me, My father?'
ReplyDeleteAnd the prophet Isaiah called the Lord Jesus Christ the everlasting Father (9:6).
Both spiritually and naturally nothing is considered worse than when a fathers own children acknowledge another to be their father (Jer. 3:19).
And also for a bridegrooms bride playing the harlot with many lovers (Jer. 3:1) the trinity, Jehovah,Yahweh, etc.
That alone is a good reason to turn away from any FALSE god and COME to JESUS Christ, He is the TRUE God and the LIVING God (Jer. 10:10).