Matthew
The Book of Matthew was written by one of the Apostles of Yeshua, Matthew. Matthew is his anglicized name, his Hebrew name was Mattityahu, which means, "gift of Jehovah". Matthew was a tax collector, one of the most hated professions in the Roman Empire, when Y'shua called him into the ministry in Matthew 9:9.
As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector's booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.
This is one of five times, Matthew is mentioned in the Bible.
He is also called Levi, son of Alpheus. Mark 2:14
The Gospels Are Synoptic and Specifically Addressed.
The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke are synoptic which means they describe events from a similar point of view, as contrasted with that of John. Matthew, presents Yeshua/Jesus, to the Jew, as the Lion of Judah, the Promised Messiah. Mark presents him to the Roman as the Servant. Luke presents him to the Greek, as the Son of Man. All three of these gospels include many of the same stories, often in a similar sequence and in similar wording. The Book of John, whose content is comparatively distinct, presents Yeshua/Jesus as the Son of God to the Faithful Believers, the Remnant of God in every generation.
Timeline/Archeology
At the beginning of Matthew, we have the Genealogy of Y'shua, Jesus. It starts with Abraham, who lived in the 20th century BC and gives us the names of the Messianic line of Judah from Abraham to David, 1040–970 BC, to Y'shua who was born some time between 7 and 4 BC. The Book of Matthew then jumps from Y'shua's birth to the begining of his ministry, around 27 AD to his Sacificial Death and Resurection, three years later.
It centers on the area from the Galilee to Egypt during the time of Y'shua, as seen in the following map.
The Style of Matthew
-Presented legalistically as fulfilled prophecy
-Centers of what was said by Yeshua.
-Ends at the Resurrection of Yeshua
-Since it presents Yeshua as the Lion of Judah, it is symbolized as the Lion.
Interesting Note
Mark is symbolized as the Ox because it presents Yeshua as the servant.
Luke is symbolized as the Man because it presents Yeshua as the Son of Man.
John is symbolized as the Eagle because it presents Yeshua as the Son of God.
Surrounding the Tabernacle in the desert, the Israelites rallied behind four main tribes, Judah, Ephraim, Reuben and Dan. Their tribal banners were the Lion, Ox, Man and Eagle respectively. The Lion, Ox, Man and Eagle are also the faces of Cherubim at the Throne of God. It appears that the tabernacle is a model of the Throne Room of God.
I love the way that everything in the scriptures link together, revealing deeper meaning. I also love anything about the Jews as my grandfather was Jewish.
ReplyDeleteThanks Brenda!
ReplyDeleteGood work N.D.
ReplyDeleteThe gospel of John, I thought that John presents Jesus as God.
To present Jesus as the Son of God is insufficient, since there are many other sons of God. Adam is also called the son of God (Luke 3:38), you and I and every born again believer is called a son of God.
No one has a problem to believe that Jesus is the Son of God, but most people do not believe that Jesus Christ is the only God became a man, or was clothed in flesh.
Thanks Paul. As we have discussed before, we agree on most things. However, we disagree on Y'shua's or Jesus' actual make up. I agree that Y'shua or Jesus was the Word of God and the Son of God and the Son of Man as the scriptures clearly lay out.
ReplyDeleteIn John 1, we are told that the Word of God was in the beginning. God Spoke and it became true. Everything that is true is the Word of God, because he is the author of all things true and pure. Therefore, when God promised us a Meshiach, or Messiah, it became true and materialized in the womb of the virgin, Mariam, or Mary.
This creation of God was 100% man (Body, Mind and Soul) with the 100% of the Ruach Hokadesh, Spirit of God, empowering him, but allowing the man part to have total Free Will to choose his destiny. He chose, not to live his life according to the world, but to be obedient to God. He chose to die as a 100% human sacrifice for our sins, with God departing him at the time of his death.
Thomas said it perfectly when he said, "My Lord and my God!". He saw the perfect Messiah, while seeing the power of God that dwelled within him.
I agree with everything you have said here ND, and love the way you have worded it.
DeleteYes N.D. Thomas was right calling Jesus 'Lord and God', that is because God appeared in a Body Jesus Christ (1 Tim. 3;16).
ReplyDeleteJesus without a body is called the Holy Spirit (John 4:24).
ReplyDeleteBrendaAugust 3, 2015 at 6:05 AM
Paul, those born of the Spirit of God are called Jesus' 'brethren', not His sons.( Romans ch. 8 v. 29 )
Jesus was born of God's Spirit and was the first of many brethren (those who are born of the Spirit of God).That is why He is called the Son of God, and we who are also born of God's Spirit are called 'children of God'.
The first Adam, who was formed from the dust of the ground, and denied eternal life, had fleshly DESCENDANTS - who were born of various fathers, who were of the flesh.. The second Adam, who was born of God's Holy Spirit, has Spiritual BRETHREN, who are born of One Father, God, who is Spirit..
Brenda, I agree.
ReplyDeletePaul,
God said, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
God says to us, "I am your Father, You are my Sons and Daughters."
Through Paul, God also says, "And because you are Sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ."
and
"And if Sons, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ."
My friend, Y'shua is our brother, who laid down his life for us. We are joint heirs of the Kingdom of God, through and with him.
Y'shua (Jesus) said, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Not only is Y'shua our brother, he is our best friend, who has a great Committed Love, Agape, for us. Please notice that Y'shua said, MAN...NOT GOD.
Please note that the word son, is the same Greek word, huios. That means that you cannot dispute that the word son, in every preceding verse means the same thing, a direct creation of their Father and Mother. You, me, Brenda and Y'shua (Jesus) are Sons of Man, and Sons of God.
Also, notice in this verse again, there are two types of Sons. The same way as Y'shua.
"And because you are Sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father."
The Spirit of his Son, is God's Spirit, which also flows through all believers. We are Sons of God's Spirit.
"Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ."
We are also Sons of mans, and joint heirs through the Messiah, the man.
Y'shua gives us a lesson in Mark 3:28-30 and Matthew 19.
"Truly I tell you, all sins and blasphemes will be forgiven for the sons of men. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin. He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, 'He has an evil spirit'."
In this dialog with the Pharisees, he tells them that you cannot sin against the son and it will be forgiven, but sin against the Spirit of Power within him, is blasphemy and unforgivable. Why? Because, Y'shua was a man, but his Spirit was God.
Finally, I asked you over in your blog, "Why did Y'shua, Jesus give, Nicodemus and us, the example of Moses lifting up the serpent in the desert." Because it was a dual lesson, a Prophecy and a History Lesson.
First, a Prophecy of Y'shua being lifted up for everyones salvation, Secondly, a 'NOT TO REPEAT" History Lesson.
As we go on, please remember the old saying, "Those, who don't remember the past, are doomed to repeat it."
What did the Israelites do with the serpent on the pole? They deified it. They made it their god and worshiped it. You and countless christians have done the same thing. You have deified the Gift of Salvation and deified and glorified him instead of the Giver of Salvation, Yahweh. God even gave him a name to drive the point home and help you remember it.
Look it up!!!! Jesus,the anglicized version of Y'shua or Yehoshua, means YAHWEH SAVES. .
Amen to what you have said ND.
ReplyDeletePaul, I thank God for Jesus, who learned obedience to, and was obedient to Him.(as prophesied in Isaiah ch. 7 vs. 14 and 15 'Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.'
). Luke ch. 18 v. 19 tells us. 'And Jesus said unto him, Why call me good? none is good, except one, that is, God.' It was the Spirit of God in Jesus that was good, and it is only the Spirit of God in us that can be called 'good'.
Yes Brenda, we are called Jesus brethren and also the sons of God, that is because we are born of the Spirit of Jesus Christ who is the Spirit (2 Cor.3:17) (Clothed in flesh).
ReplyDeleteAnd Adam did not deny eternal life, since eternal life is a FREE gift of God, therefore he could not deny that free gift, just the same as we cannot deny the free gift of God eternal life.
(A free gift is that which you have in your possession and not that which is promised.)
The Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY one who can have spiritual and fleshly descendants through the line of Adam, men cannot have spiritual descendants only fleshly descendants.
You rightly said , "who are born of One Father, God, who is Spirit.." So then, why don't you believe that God who is called Father who is the Spirit is the Lord Jesus Christ?
Yes N.D. what you are saying is good, but you don't tell us who that God is.
ReplyDeleteYou say that God's Name it is 'Yahweh', is that because you don't want to identify with the Jehovah Witnesses who named God Jehovah, a name they cooked up from the four letters 'YHWH' in Exodus?
The Lord Jesus wants you to be a 'Jesus' Witness and NOT a Jehovah Witness or a Yahweh Witness (Acts 1:8). A Yahweh witness is a false witness and a Jesus witness is a true witness of the true God Jesus Christ (1 John 5:20).
Look brothers and sisters, it's not complicated, all you need to do is to be obedient to the Lord Jesus Christ and preach Him alone and no other, or else, you are transgressing the first commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Because the Lord Jesus is the Lord and God from the beginning, therefore He said, "I thought that you would call Me Father (Jer.3:19)."
So then, why don't you?
Brenda, if the Lord Jesus is God, to whom was He obedient?
ReplyDeleteWhat does Emmanuel mean?
If only God is good, tell me, is Jesus good?
Yes Paul
ReplyDeleteJesus is Spirit now because His fleshly body has gone. The sin is in the flesh and the reason why Jesus was born in the flesh but of God's Spirit is explained in 2 Corinthians ch 5 vs. 18 - 21:-
'Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God. For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.'
It was the flesh that had to be destroyed, and that is why, when we are in Him, we are of the Spirit, and will continue in the Spirit when the flesh has gone.
Jesus was born of the Spirit of God the Father, and is One with the Father, as we are one with Him. in the Spirit, as stated in John ch. 14 vs. 19 and 20:-
' After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also. "In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
2 Corinthians ch. 3 v. 18 says:- 'But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.'
John ch. 17 vs. 20 - 22 states:-
'I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;…
The Lord Jesus in the flesh was obedient (after He came to know how to refuse the evil and choose the good - as prophesied in Isaiah chl 7 vs. 15 and 16) to God the Father.
Immanuel means 'God is with us' . (which He is when we are in the body of Christ on earth)
It is Jesus who said 'Only God is good', so the Spirit of God in Jesus is the 'good' that Jesus is referring to here, just as it is only the Spirit of God in us that is good.
Hi Paul,
ReplyDelete”You say that God's Name is 'Yahweh', is that because you don't want to identify with the Jehovah Witnesses who named God Jehovah, a name they cooked up from the four letters 'YHWH' in Exodus?” ,
First of all, let me commend you for finally admitting that the name YHWH appears in the scriptures, a point that you have been denying for a long time and also the name YHWH has been around a lot longer than the Jehovah Witnesses. In the same way that Jesus is the anglicized name of Y’shua, Jehovah is the Germanic/anglicized version of YHWH, the same that Paul is the anglicized version of Sh’aul. To set the record clear, I don't associate with any christian denomination.
”The Lord Jesus wants you to be a 'Jesus' Witness and NOT a Jehovah Witness or a Yahweh Witness (Acts 1:8). A Yahweh witness is a false witness and a Jesus witness is a true witness of the true God Jesus Christ (1 John 5:20). ” ,
That is very confusing, since Y’shua means "Yahweh Saves". Being a witness for Y’shua (Jesus) is being a Yahweh witness. I hope you see that is very confusing.
”Look brothers and sisters, it's not complicated, all you need to do is to be obedient to the Lord Jesus Christ and preach Him alone and no other, or else, you are transgressing the first commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ. ” ,
Again, very confusing and amusing, since in his first commandment, Y’shua was quoting the Schma, which states,
”Schma, Yisrael. YHWH Elohim YHWH echad. ” ,
Please notice that in English, it goes,
”Hear O’Israel. Yahweh, our God, is one Yahweh. ” ,
Let me finish it up for you.
”Ahab YHWH Elohim lebab nephesh m’od” ,
In English,
”Love YHWH, thy God, with all heart, soul and might. ” ,
”Because the Lord Jesus is the Lord and God from the beginning, therefore He said, "I thought that you would call Me Father (Jer.3:19)." So then, why don't you? ” ,
Let me finish your scriptural reference in Jer 3:20. It ends with, ”…neum YHWH” ,
In English, “…Says Yahweh.” , not Jesus.
You are right Brenda, 'Emmanuel' means exactly that God is with us, NOT one of the gods with us, but the ONLY God with us. That was at the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ, and it means just what it says, that the Lord Jesus is that God who created everything is now living with us as a brother or a man just like one of us so that we now can look at God and live.
ReplyDeleteI think that is just wonderful and it is He who revealed Himself to me two thousand years after His resurrection from the dead.
Brenda, it is not only the Spirit of the Lord Jesus who is good, but He is totally good, alone and nobody else is good,just as He has said, don't you remember that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit? (2 Cor. 3:17).
Oh no my brother N.D. you are greatly mistaken.
ReplyDeleteYHWH is NOT a name, those are four letters of the alphabet which no one can pronounce because it has no vowels, you can't say it.
The reason for that is that the Lord Jesus didn't want the world to know His Name before His time.
You see, in the Old Testament everybody wanted to know the Lords Name just like Moses and Manoah (Judg. 13:17-18), but the Lord never revealed His Name till His birth in Mat. 1:21.
Well brother, I do not speak Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek, but I speak and understand enough English even though it's not my Mother-tongue.
What I know for sure is, that 'JESUS' doesn't mean 'somebody else saves. It plainly means 'Jesus saves', because the Scriptures said that there is no other Name given under heaven and among men whereby we must be saved (Acts 4:12).
Also, God is not a name, it's a title which belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Yes, 'Yahweh' is a name, but that is a man invented name and it's not in the Bible, God's Name never was or is or will be Yahweh or Jehovah.
Have you ever heard anyone blaspheming the name Yahweh?
I don't think so! But the Name Jesus Christ is blasphemed all day long, that is because Satan tries to degrade the Name of God which is ABOVE ALL Names, so that at the Name of 'JESUS' every knee should bow and every tongue confess that JESUS CHRIST is the Lord God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth.
In English, the Word of God never used the name 'Yahweh' but JESUS!
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI freely admit that YHWH could be pronounced a number of ways. It is definitely not pronounced as Jesus, especially since Jesus, itself, is a made up English version of a poorly transliterated Latin version of Y’shua. Also, I don’t say that your name is not Paul, because it is pronounced Cindy Crawford in my language.
I would like to know how you can sit there say what a word or name means when you freely admit you have a limited knowledge of the English, you are using? Isn’t that like a baker telling a mechanic how to repair an automobile?
Acts 17:11 tells us to accept all message with all eagerness of heart, but search the scriptures daily to whether those things are so. If you don’t fully understand what you are reading, how can you follow this commandment?
Paul,
ReplyDeletewhere you say 'Brenda, it is not only the Spirit of the Lord Jesus who is good, but He is totally good, alone and nobody else is good,just as He has said, don't you remember that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit? (2 Cor. 3:17). ' Yes, He is Spirit because( as in 'He who was without sin became sin for us' (because He was born of God's Spirit, and was God's Word made flesh). He became sin because the sin is in the fleshly body.
We are told in Proverbs ch 23 v. 7 that 'As a man thinks in his heart, so is he". Jesus was Spirit of God inside, and that is why we have to have our minds renewed in Christ Jesus.
Being in the body of Christ( 1 Corinthians ch. 12 v. 27 ) gives us access to the mind of Christ. He is the One mediator between God and man, and we grow from baby in Christ to maturity as we act on that word spoken to us (our daily manna) through the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit .
In John ch. 17 vs. 20 and 21 Jesus uses the word 'us' when He is asking the Father that those who believe on Him might be one in Him and the Father, as He is One with the Father.:-
'Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent Me.'
The 'ONENESS' is Spiritual, and we can only access it through Jesus by being born again, by being in the body of Christ (the church), because God and sin (which is in the flesh) cannot be joined. We have to have a mediator.
Romans ch. 5 v. 18 tells us that :-
' Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.'
In plain English Paul this means:-
I was denied access to God and condemned to death THROUGH the disobedience of first Adam, of the flesh.
I was reunited to God and granted eternal life THROUGH the obedience of the second Adam, of the Spirit.
Praise God for Jesus, and Jesus for His obedience concerning the sacrifice of the flesh, who even though He cried out 'My God, my God why have You forsaken Me'., was the first to be raised from the dead.
Where it says in Colossians ch. 1 vs. 15 and 15 concerning Jesus:-
'He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him.…'
.....If Jesus had to be 'born' as in 'the firstborn', which means the 'firstborn' of the Spirit, then that shows He had to have a Father - in the Spirit, and that goes together with God saying in Revelation ch. 21 v.5 'Behold, I make all things new.'
Verse 7 goes on the say:-'He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.'
I say again, 'Thank God for Jesus 'THROUGH' Whom I have been able to become a child of God.
N.D. Paul is a name and Cindy Crawford is also a name, but YHWH is NOT a name and you can't pronounce it, because it has no vowels and neither can you make a name out of YHWH and it does not mean Jesus just as you have said.
ReplyDeleteYou see, Jesus is the Name God gave to Himself when He was born into His own creation through a virgin and so became a man, a Son and a brother, as we already have said.
God is Spirit (John 4:24). We now know that His Name is Jesus, but we could not see Him till He clothed Himself in flesh (born through a virgin), and then we beheld His glory as the only begotten Son of God.
Brenda, it is not exactly wrong what you are saying, but it is just not accurate and not good enough. I expect a lot better from you, that is because you have a excellent knowledge of the Scriptures.
ReplyDeleteAs I have said previously that because you are believing in a false god called 'Yahweh', therefore all your perception and doctrines are distorted and not good enough.
You always put the cart before the horse, so to speak.
A short example;
You said, "In plain English Paul this means:-
I was denied access to God and condemned to death THROUGH the disobedience of first Adam, of the flesh."
Brenda, in Adam ALL have died, you have been born dead (spirituality). You cannot be condemned to death when you are already dead. And for that reason Jesus said, that you must be born again.
You only have access to God when you come to Jesus and that access was never denied, for this reason Jesus came to reconcile us to Himself.
You said, "I was reunited to God and granted eternal life THROUGH the obedience of the second Adam, of the Spirit."
Brenda, eternal life is a free gift of God and it is NOT GRANTED, it is given, a free gift.
And to which God were you reunited? To Yahweh?
Look Brenda, if you haven't been united to the Lord Jesus Christ, then you have been united to a false god.
It is a fallacy to believe that you can go through Jesus Christ to this false god Yahweh.
Anyone who comes to the Lord Jesus Christ does NOT go past Him, but is reunited with the only God there is, Jesus Christ our Lord.
The same way, you cannot pray to Yahweh in Jesus Name. Who do you think is going to listen? Yahweh? Absolutely not.
This is the great mistake of most Christians.
Christians are like Israel who always abandoned the Lord their God and burned incense to other gods, and worshiped other gods on high places.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteYahweh or YHWH is, I believe, one of the names that was written in the Hebrew Bible for God, which was built on the foundation of the words 'I AM'
What the Bible actually says regarding Adam, is 'As in Adam all die'. ( 1 Corinthians ch. 15 v. 22)
The sin is in the flesh, and all sin. So 'yes' I am dead in the flesh.
So much of what you have put in your last comment to me is unscriptural Paul.
It is Jesus Himself who says:-
'In that day you will ask nothing of me. Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you.' (John ch. 16 v. 23)
Where you say:-
'Christians are like Israel who always abandoned the Lord their God and burned incense to other gods, and worshiped other gods on high places.'
I agree that it is happening today. This is spiritual Babylon, and just like Daniel did not eat the food of the king of Babylon, we must only eat God's manna, not man's 'bread'.
That is why we need the Holy Spirit to teach us the truth.
Whatever we call God, He is the Spirit that caused Jesus to be born of a virgin mother.
N.D. That's right, the Spirit of God (which is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ) does not contradict itself.
ReplyDeleteAnd every prophet of God is judged by his testimony, just like we are judged by our testimony and every careless word we speak.
Brenda, why is it so difficult for you to know and to agree that YHWH is NOT a name?
ReplyDeleteNo Brenda, you are not dead in the flesh, many photographs of you will prove that, and Jesus did not say that you need to be born again of the flesh.
(John 16:23) Yes, the Lord Jesus said, that when you are born from above, "In that day you will NOT question Me about anything, Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you."
So then, why do you question the Lord Jesus Christ?
Obviously you don't believe that Jesus is the Father as He has said in John 14:9 and Isa. 9:6 + John 10:30 + John 16:25, and neither do you believe that the Fathers Name is JESUS John 5:43.
I think that even if the Lord Jesus would say that to your face, you would not believe Him.
You have been deceived by a deceiving spirit and John 5:43 makes that clear.
What I meant by 'dead in the flesh' Paul was the mind of the flesh is death, and if we live according to the flesh we shall die. Included in the term 'flesh' is a carnal mind.
ReplyDeletePaul, it is you who question the Lord Jesus and what He says about the Father.
He is the Word of the Father made flesh, it is the Spirit that is the Father. When we are all born of the Spirit of God we are all as one in Him. It is like two different time zones Paul, and once we are in the body of Christ then we have the mind of Christ, who is One with God in the Spirit.
Brenda, I don't think that the mind of the flesh can be dead.
ReplyDeleteA man is created in the image of God, which is spirit, soul and body (God= John 4:24, +Isa. 1:14 and the body (flesh) of Jesus), and a man has a body, soul and spirit (Heb. 4:12).
The Spirit of a man has died in Adam, therefore Jesus said that we must be born again, the soul of every man is alive and is in his flesh the body.
The soul is the thinking, feeling, hearing, seeing, tasting, etc. and the mind is his thinking, how then can his mind be dead?
I rather think that if the mind is set on our fleshly desires will produce death, that is physical death.
Well Brenda, do you agree with the Lord Jesus, that the Fathers Name is JESUS according to John 5:43?
Jesus said in John ch. 5 v. 43 that He comes IN the Father's name Paul, that is the same as 'on behalf of the Father'.
ReplyDeleteVerse 36 of John ch. 5 says that it is the Father who sent Jesus:-
'But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.'
Jesus was born on this earth the Son of the Father.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteAs in your blog, I asked the same questions. You think that Jesus is the only pronunciation of the name of God, with total disregard to Y'shua, the original Hebrew name his son.
Did you know that the English translation was first published in 1381? If English is the only true translation, were all the people prior to 1881 lost? If not, what language of scriptures did they use to spread the gospel?
Brenda, Jesus did not come on behalf of another, called 'Father'.
ReplyDeleteJesus is the Alpha, meaning the first (Rev. 1:8), the 'first' is the Father and any son will be second, but it is Jesus the Son who is the first (Rev. 1:17-18).
It is impossible for the first to come on behalf of another, and Jesus made it clear that He came in the Fathers NAME (John 5:43), just as He said in (John 17:6) "I have manifested Your name (made known the Name of the Father) to the men you gave me out of the world......... ."
Isaiah said long before Jesus was born that 'His NAME shall be called everlasting FATHER' (Isa. 9:6). We both know that 'everlasting Father is not a name, but Jesus is a name and His Name is the Name of the everlasting Father.
I wonder, why is that so difficult for you to believe?
Concerning Jesus Christ; God did NOT have a son, He IS the Son!
Concerning man, God has many sons, all who are born of the Spirit are His sons.
John 5:36 is a metaphoric statement from the Lord Jesus, I have explained that many times before. It is important to understand that God (Jesus) is a Spirit became a man, born in flesh in Bethlehem. In that regard He is called the son of man, and as a son just like any other son he also must have a father, but because Jesus is the father therefore He can only speak metaphorically about the Father, just as He has said in John 16:25 that He spoke about the Father FIGURATIVELY which is metaphorically.
Look Brenda, if you don't believe that, you will always preach TWO gods.
N.D. I did not say, 'the only pronunciation', I said the only Name, and in English he is called JESUS! And not Y'shua.
ReplyDeleteY'shua perhaps in another Language, I don't know.
But here in Australia, America, England, Germany, Switzerland, Austria and most of Europe we call Him JESUS.
Have you ever heard anyone blaspheming and saying 'Yshua'?
All English speaking people say 'Jesus Christ' in taking Gods Name in vain.
Which translation was published in 1381?
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did not have the New testament, they knew the author of the Bible just as I do.
I can preach the gospel just from the Old Testament alone and if necessary without the Bible, that is because I also know the author of the Bible and He is my Father who is in heaven.
Today we have this confusion that most Christians think that they can pray to this unknowable god THROUGH the Lord Jesus Christ.
Revelation ch. 1 v. 1 and 2 Paul says:-
ReplyDelete'The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. '
You say that John ch. 5 v. 36 is metaphoric, yet you do not mention v. 37 where Jesus says:-
'And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. '
He is saying quite plainly to the ones He is speaking to that they have neither heard the voice nor seen the shape of God.
God is Spirit.
Acts ch. 2 v. 36 says quite plainly who Jesus is:-
"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah."
John ch. 1 v. 14 says:-
'The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.'
He is the Saviour of mankind whom God sent.
Praise His wonderful name.
Yes Brenda, John 5:37 is also metaphorical.
ReplyDeleteBecause the Lord Jesus is the Lord God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth, therefore it is most important that you believe that the Lord Jesus IS the Father and if He IS the Father, then He cannot have a Father, just as the Scriptures said (Hebr. 7:3) 'Without father or mother or genealogy'.
Plainly, it is impossible for the Lord God (Jesus Christ) to have a 'Father', and for that reason, EVERY time He speaks about His 'Father' it is metaphoric just as He has said, (John 16:25) 'Figuratively (metaphorical), with the exception of, when He speaks plainly (John 16:25) about the Father.
(John 14:90) Here He tells you plainly, "have I been so long with you 'Brenda', and yet you have not come to know Me? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; ….. ."
When Jesus said 'that the Father has born witness of Me', that simply means that the Holy Spirit inside of you tells you that you ought to believe in Jesus and in no one else.
And if the Holy Spirit is not inside of you, then it is God who has said that you ought to believe in Jesus Christ and in no one else.
You said, "He is saying quite plainly to the ones He is speaking to that they have neither heard the voice nor seen the shape of God."
Well Brenda, thousands have seen the Lord God the Almighty from the beginning to this day including me. He performed miraculous signs and wonders right in front of their eyes, but they did not believe in Him. In Exodus 24:10 at the one time 73 Israelites saw the Lord and many others, and all the new Testament Saints saw the Lord and believed in Him including Paul (Acts 22:18), so tell me, did they see God? Or hear His voice?
Look Brenda, if you cannot believe what Jesus is saying, then believe just on the account of His works.
Only God can raise a man from the dead, and that is exactly what Jesus did.
You see, Jesus spoke in parables or metaphorically, "so that SEEING THEY MAY NOT SEE, AND HEARING THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND. (Luke 8:10)."
So then, ALL the unbelieving never saw God nor will they ever see Him, but for you, it is to believe in Him so that He might manifest Himself to you also.
You said, "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us."
That simply means that GOD became flesh, with the Name 'JESUS'.
Or that God (John 4:24) who is Spirit clothed Himself in flesh, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. It doesn't matter how you are saying it, as long as you start and end up with the Lord Jesus Christ, and NO OTHER, that is because He is the first and the last.
Paul, it is the Lord Jesus who has been seen, and it was Jesus who Paul saw according to Acts ch. 22 . When they looked on Jesus they saw the man Jesus, who had the Spirit of God in Him. That is why Jesus said 'Why call me good? none is good, except one, that is, God..' Luke ch. 18 v. 19.
ReplyDeleteYes, Jesus was a priest after the order of Melchizedek as it says in Hebrews 7
“The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
‘You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek’”
which is quoted from Psalm 110
for since the Old Testament nowhere mentions Melchizedek’s ancestry, birth, or death, the conclusion can be drawn that he remains…forever.
This is a comparison to us that Jesus remains forever, which He does, and we who are in His body are with Him and are having our minds renewed in Him.
We are taught and instructed through the scriptures Paul and they are discerned spiritually.
The Spirit of God, which was in the man Jesus, has enabled mankind to be re united with God. When the body of Christ on earth has been perfected, then the second Adam will be perfected.
1 Corinthians ch. 15 vs. 44 - 46 :- it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.…
Jesus was a life giving Spirit because His obedience to the Spirit that was in Him has caused mankind to have the life that is eternal.
Praise God for Jesus, the second Adam, the One and only mediator between man and God, the Word of God made flesh, the door to the sheepfold.
You wrote in your last comment Paul:-
'You said, "He is saying quite plainly to the ones He is speaking to that they have neither heard the voice nor seen the shape of God."'
If you read that verse that I have quoted here you will see that is exactly what Jesus said to the ones He was speaking to.
It was not me that said it, it was Jesus who said it, and He was talking to those particular people.
"I did not say, 'the only pronunciation', I said the only Name, and in English he is called JESUS! And not Y'shua.
ReplyDeleteY'shua perhaps in another Language, I don't know."
How can you claim to speak with authority concerning his name, when you freely admit that you don't know the other languages, especially when the scriptures were originally written in a language other than English?
"Have you ever heard anyone blaspheming and saying 'Yshua'?
Unfortunately so. There are many ways, in English, Hebrew, Italian, Chinese, etc., that man has devised to blaspheme and use God's name in vain.
"Which translation was published in 1381?"
John Wycliffe produced the first English bible in 1381-1382.
"I can preach the gospel just from the Old Testament alone and if necessary without the Bible, that is because I also know the author of the Bible and He is my Father who is in heaven."
I Praise God! That is very commendable and exactly what we are to do today, since our mission is to first evangelize the Jew, then the Gentile. That is also the example Y'shua gave us on the road to Emmaus. With that said, the Spirit is moving me to test your knowledge of this. What is the significance of the first genealogy in B'reshit (Genesis) 5?
"Today we have this confusion that most Christians think that they can pray to this unknowable god THROUGH the Lord Jesus Christ."
Yahweh is not unknowable.
Noach (Noah) and Moshe (Moses) walked and talked with Yahweh, your God.
David was his beloved.
The prophets spoke and communed with Yahweh on a daily basis.
" YHWH is NOT a name and you can't pronounce it, because it has no vowels and neither can you make a name out of YHWH and it does not mean Jesus just as you have said.
The priests was allowed to say his name, within the tabernacle, every year on Yom Kippur. If Yahweh was unpronouncable, then how did they do that?
I didn't say that Yahweh meant Jesus. No!!!!! It is Y'shua (Jesus) that is subservient to Yahweh. It is Y'shua (Jesus) that gives homage and Praise to God. Y'shua (Jesus) shouts out to all creation with his name that means, "Yahweh Saves".
Thank You Brenda! Praise God!
DeleteYes Brenda, Paul saw Jesus, that is because there is NO OTHER God but Jesus. Jesus alone is the Lord God the Creator of heaven and earth.
ReplyDeleteIn Exodus 24:10, who do you think that the 73 Elders saw?
What about Moses, who do you think that he saw in the burning bush?
Yes JESUS! Because there is no other God but Jesus, Jesus Himself said, (John 5:46) that Moses wrote about Me (Jesus).
You see, unbelievers can not see God or hear His voice, that is because they don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the only God (Jude 1:25). They believe just like you that there has to be another God, a greater God than Jesus, and they call him Yahweh, Jehovah, Father or just God and so denying our only sovereign Lord (Jude 1:4).
Brenda, (Luke 18:19) if only God is good, does that mean that Jesus is bad?
Well, if Jesus is NOT God, then He would be bad since only God is good.
That statement of the Lord Jesus Christ makes it very clear that Jesus claims to be the 'GOD' of the Bible.
N.D. you know that my God is not Yahweh, the Name of my God is Jesus who is the Christ and I worship Him only just like all of those who believed in Him (Mat. 2:11, Mat. 24:33 and 28:9), and He is certainly NOT subservient to a god called Yahweh.
ReplyDeleteIf the Lord Jesus would not be the Lord God, He would have refused worship.
As I have said to you, that in the Old Testament the Name of God had not been given, therefore no one knew His Name not even the priests.
Jesus never mentioned a name called 'Yahweh', no, not even once, it's NOT in the Bible N.D.
And the Lord Jesus never shouted 'Yahweh saves'.
Also, Yahweh is unknowable, obviously, because you will never tell me what he did.
Did he created the world?
Did he healed the sick?
Did he brought the dead back to life?
Did he do anything?
Show it to me in the Bible.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteYes, Moses did speak of Jesus, the Messiah, many times, but did not use the name Jesus. This was when he spoke about God saying that He would rain down 'manna' from Heaven, and many other places. Jesus is likened to the 'rock', and to 'water' in the Bible.
That is how the scriptures are discerned spiritually. Once we become born again, we become Spiritual Israel, the church, and learn God's ways while in the body of Christ.
When Jesus said that only God is good, He was referring to the Spirit that had Fathered Him. The 'good' is not in the flesh, and Jesus was the firstborn of God's Spirit, the first of many brethren. The person Jesus was talking to was calling the 'man' he was looking at 'good', but it was the Spirit that was in the man Jesus which was good.
In Exodus ch. 33 v. 20 (regarding who has seen God) God tells Moses:-
'you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” That is why I believe Jesus is the 'bread of the face', and that is how we 'see' God, through His word.
There are many things in the scriptures that reveal the truth to us Paul, and none of us have it all. We can only learn from them as they speak to us personally line upon line. That is how I have always seen the scriptures as a vocabulary and not a book. Just as I was taught in the natural as I grew up, and learned gradually, so too I am taught through the Holy Spirit's enlightening of the scriptures, having my mind renewed in Christ who is the Word of God.
2 Corinthians ch. 5 vs. 18 and 19 say it all:-
'Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.…'
So we are the body of Christ on earth, part of the second Adam who is without sin because the sin was in the flesh (which God condemned) if we walk according to the Spirit and not according to the flesh.
Hallelujah God be praised.!
I praise Jesus for His obedience to God as declared in Hebrews ch. 5 vs. 7 - 9 :-
'In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,…'
Brenda, Moses spoke ONLY of the Lord Jesus Christ, that is because there is NO OTHER God but Jesus. He didn't know His Name, because the Lords Name had not been given in the Old Testament and nobody knew His Name, including Moses.
ReplyDeleteThe Scriptures are written to the natural man first (not to the spiritual man), so that he can understand it by his or her God given intelligence.
If the Lord Jesus Christ created the heavens and the earth and everything in it and nothing came into being apart from Him (Jesus), then it is the Lord Jesus ALONE who is the creator GOD.
That is written for the natural man to understand and believe, and if somebody claims to have the spiritual mind, the mind of Christ and does not agree with that plain statement, understands nothing of the Scriptures. And if they claim to discern that spiritually and teach contrary to natural intelligence and say, 'that this god called Yahweh or Jehovah or whatever other name, created the heavens and the earth THROUGH Jesus Christ, such people understand nothing, not only deceiving others but deceiving themselves.
Therefore Brenda and N.D. you should separate yourselves from such teachings and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart mind and soul without restraint, and preach Jesus Christ alone and Him crucified.
Well, I always say, just as I do or better.
I think that you both would make good ambassadors for the Lord Jesus Christ who is God over all forever praised (Rom. 9:5)
In Christ we are no longer Jews or Gentiles but new creations, old things have passed away behold all things are new.
Brenda, most people do not learn line upon line, a little here and a little there, just as they didn't in the Scriptures. You need to read the rest of those statements, "but they would NOT listen." Yes, the Lord said it to them, "That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive."
Also, is there another saviour who could save the Lord Jesus from death?
Tell me, is the Lord Jesus the only saviour, or does the saviour need another saviour to save Him from death?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteyou say ' And if they claim to discern that spiritually and teach contrary to natural intelligence '
The Holy Spirit does not teach with 'natural intelligence', which comes from the carnal mind,
Romans ch. 8 v.7 states :- Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. '
We can only preach Christ crucified to the unbeliever, it is the Holy Spirit who does the teaching once a person becomes a believer.
'This is what Isaiah ch. 28 vs. 9 and 10 says about those to whom He will teach knowledge and make to understand doctrine:-
'Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line;
here a little, and there a little:'
He speaks this to us in the body of Christ saying:- 'This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing:'
and He is showing us through those scriptures that we must not be like those people, who did not listen.
Hi ND,
ReplyDeletecan I ask you what you meant in a previous comment to Paul where you asked what the significance of the genealogy was in Genesis ch. 5?
I have always believed something regarding this chapter, but which I would find difficult to explain to people.
Paul,
ReplyDeletePlease read the following thoroughly and check the scriptures as God has commanded us, when through Shaul (Paul), he said, “Receive all message with all eagerness of heart, but search the scriptures to determine if true.” I know that I don’t have to tell you this, but the B’rit Hadashah, (New Testament) was not around. Therefore, he was referencing the Tanahk (Old Testament). As an added note, Y’shua, (Jesus) only referenced the Tanahk (Old Testament).
Let me be perfectly clear. I believe in a knowing, loving and just God. He has provided me with everything that I need, including reconciliation, our salvation.
From the beginning, he has been consistent in what he requires from us. One such consistency is that he requires an innocent blood sacrifice for any infraction. That requirement continues till today. I repeat, he has not changed. To be complete and give full redemption, that blood sacrifice has to be of like kind.
In the case of Adam and Eve and their descendents, it has to be a man. If this wasn’t true, then why didn’t God just say, “OK, Adam and Eve, I forgive you. Let’s start anew.”? The reason is that even though that would have shown he is a merciful God, it would not have shown that he is a just God. He required a blood sacrifice of an innocent man for their disobedience.
Their disobedience produced a big problem, that Adam and Eve introduced sin into their gene pool, which would be passed down from generation to generation. Therefore, God had to create a man, a perfect man, without the sin gene. That man is Y’shua (Jesus). In referencing his voluntarily HUMAN sacrifice for our sins, Y’shua (Jesus) said, “There is no greater love than for a MAN to lay down his life for another.” Not God, a man. That’s what it’s all about. It can’t get any more basic than that.
First and foremost, Y’shua(Jesus) was a man, which would have satisified God’s requirement for redemption. AGAIN, If God required his own life as the sacrifice, he would have said, “OK, Adam and Eve, I forgive you. Let’s start anew.”? AGAIN, the reason is that even though that would have shown he was a merciful God, it would not have shown that he is a just God. He required a blood sacrifice of an innocent MAN. AGAIN, GOD HAS NOT and WILL NOT CHANGE>
As you know, there are many references to Y’shua (Jesus) being both the Son of Man and the Son of God. Because Y’shua was perfect in all ways, he had a relationship with God, where his Spirit became one with God. This only the second time, in the history of man, that this has happened. That why Y’shua (Jesus) is called the second Adam. That is also what is meant by, “He shall be called Immanuel, God with us.”
Hebrew and Greek are precise languages, not like English, where things can be misunderstood. If the Messiah was going to be God, it would have said “God is with us”, not called “God with us”. I’m sure you can see the difference, even in English.
When John said, “…and The Word of God was made flesh.”, the Greek shows us that the proper English translation should have been, “…and The Word of God ‘became true’ OR ‘ became known to be true’ in the flesh.” Look it up, the Greek word used is ginomai. This means that God’s promise for a Messaih has come true. That’s it. It even goes on to say, “…and we beheld his glory, even the glory of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” Notice the word, “even”. It’s not in your English version. It was left out. Why? Because it would have made it more clear that God and Y’shua are separate entities, not the same person, but with a Spirit so identical, that it would be recognized as Immanuel, God with us.
Hi Brenda
ReplyDeleteAs I read your last comment to Paul, a smile came to my face. You quoted one of my favorite verses.
'Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line;
here a little, and there a little:'
With that one, I like bringing up Proverbs 25:2.
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."
Both are "coincidentally" :-) important to answering your comment.
In B'rshit (Genesis) Chapter 5, we find the first mention of the gospel of Y'shua's mission here on earth.
First of all, we need to recognize what is the literal truth of the genealogy. Quite simply, it is the first generation from Adam to Noach (Noah).
We then need to determine the second level of God's truth, which is being conveyed. That is done by taking the meaning of the actual names. Adam means Man. Noah means Comfort or Rest. Taking the middle names, we find Mahalalel and Jared, which means The Blessed God will descend. This gives us the general meaning of God's message, which is Man, through the Blessed God, shall have Comfort or Rest.
Taking the meaning of all the names, we get this promise from God, which turns out to be the Good News of Y'shua.
"Man is appointed mortal sorrow, but the Blessed G-d shall descend and teach that his death shall bring the despairing, rest and peace."
The interesting thing here is the pronoun, his, which is written in a way that it could either be man or God. Thousands of years later, we find out that it was both, the Son of Man and the son of God.
Ask any Jew and he will tell you that it could mean either one. However, since God cannot die, it has to be man. Good Jewish Logic.
To me, it even more interesting when you put the line of Cain with the line of Adam. You get,
"Get over your sorrow quickly and teach the hidden things of those who are in love with and belong to G-d. That is, the despairing shall have a covering or mark that should be displayed with great joy. Rejoice descendants of Cain, be at peace. Indeed, man is appointed an incurable mortal (temporary) sorrow, but the Blessed G-d shall descend and teach that his death shall bring the despairing, rest and peace."
I wrote about this in my Blog a few years ago. If your are interesting in the actual details, please go here.
Boring Genealogies, Part One
Boring Genealogies, Part Two
Thank you ND, I would put proverbs 25,v. 2 with Isaiah 28 vs. 9 and 10 too. I love the way the Hebrew language tells the whole story, and I believe that numbers have a lot of say in the Hebrew language too. All this fits together with Proverbs 25 ch. 2 doesn't it.
ReplyDeleteI also notice that there is no mention of the fall in Genesis ch. 5 and I have certain thoughts in my head as to why this is, but have not put everything together yet - I could be wrong.
I will definitely visit your posts on Genealogies, and there are other things in your other blog that I wish to read, but there is a time for everything .
Yes Brenda, the Holy Spirit does ONLY teach with natural intelligence, natural intelligence is God given intelligence.
ReplyDeleteIf you teach something contrary to intelligence, then it is a lie, and the spirit who teaches that is not the Spirit of the Lord .
Consider the Lord Jesus, He is the Spirit of God clothed in flesh (2 Cor. 3:17) and taught in natural intelligent parables, likeness and illustrations to convey spiritual realities intelligently in natural likeness so that it makes sense to the intelligent mind first and also to the spiritual mind. One and one equals two, If Jesus is not the Father, then they are two. The only way that Jesus and The Father are one is, when Jesus IS the Father.
The intellect is not the carnal mind and neither is it the flesh.
The mind is only carnal, when our thinking is only focused on fulfilling the desires of our physical bodies (flesh, or fleshly desires), that mindset cannot understand the things of the Spirit.
Jesus makes that clear, when he said that, "I and the Father are one". This is an intelligent natural mathematical statement, and no one needs to be spiritual to understand that truthfully and intelligently.
It simply and intelligently means that Jesus is the Father.
Intellectually and mathematically it can NOT mean that Jesus and the Father are TWO.
IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Who do you think is truthful, the one who says that Jesus is the Father, or the one who says that the Lord Jesus is not the Father but another person by the name of Yahweh is His Father?
Brenda, the spiritual mind does NOT override natural intelligence. And if it does, it's a deceiving spirit.
What I meant was, that every believer in Jesus Christ ought to preach Jesus Christ alone and nobody else, to the believers and to the unbelievers alike and also, Him crucified for our sins.
There are many believers who have departed from the Lord Jesus Christ to another god called Yahweh, therefore they need to be brought back again to the Lord Jesus Christ and call Him Father.
Paul said, that he has espoused you to ONE husband, and that is to Christ Jesus alone (2 Cor. 11:2) and not to another called Yahweh.
I do the same through all my comments so that you would turn back to Jesus Christ alone and forsake that other god called Yahweh.
N.D. if you believe in a ' knowing, loving and just God'; well, isn't that loving just God the Lord Jesus Christ the creator of heaven and earth?
ReplyDeleteBrother N.D. I don't think that you understand the fall of man, and the original sin.
The first blood sacrifice was a beast and not a man, it was made by the Lord Jesus to cover Adams sin.
The last blood sacrifice was also made by the Lord Jesus, when He offered up Himself on the cross.
You need to understand that the Lord Jesus IS the only GOD who clothed Himself in flesh, and only in that sense He became a man.
The reason is, that you cannot hang a Spirit on a cross, but only if He is clothed in flesh, and for that reason God became a man.
You said, "Because Y’shua was perfect in all ways, he had a relationship with God, where his Spirit became one with God. This only the second time, in the history of man, that this has happened. That why Y’shua (Jesus) is called the second Adam. That is also what is meant by, “He shall be called Immanuel, God with us."
Absolutely no! Jesus is the Spirit (2 Cor.3:17). And God is Spirit (John 4:24). One Spirit who is in Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
Well my brother, misunderstandings happens in every language, not only in English.
God and Jesus are NOT separate entities, it is Jesus who is the creator God and no other.
Paul,
ReplyDeletethe church is the bride of Christ, and the marriage causes them to be one, just like the first Adam was one with Eve. However, that does not take away God, just like God was not taken out of the picture, so to speak, when the first Adam and Eve were formed.
I will not add any more than what I have already said regarding being Spiritually minded
( having our minds renewed in Christ), except for reminding you that God reveals in Isaiah ch.55 v. 8:-' For my thoughts are not as your thoughts, neither are your ways as my ways, '
We have to refer to what is written in the Bible, otherwise we have a false foundation Paul.
Paul,
ReplyDelete"The first blood sacrifice was a beast and not a man, it was made by the Lord Jesus to cover Adams sin.
Can I ask you to do me a favor? Could you please slow down and read what is written, instead of responding emotionally with a lot of rhetoric.
Where did I say that the original sacrifice was a man?
Brenda,
ReplyDeleteGood Point! I think that this no mention of the Fall because God wants to put us to put sin behind us and center on the solution, our redemption through the Messiah.
What are you thoughts?
I suppose a similar kind of thing really ND. I have always believed that Genesis ch. 5 is where the Holy Spirit starts to use the scriptures to teach us God's ways, and where the 'how to be and how not to be' is revealed.
ReplyDeleteIt is as if chapter 5 represents spiritually to me the new beginning, where sin has not entered, yet it also reveals that it is still possible for sin to enter, as it can in our 'born again' life if we allow it to. However, the difference between the characters in the scriptures that follow Genesis ch. 5 is that they did not have the sacrificial lamb as their barrier and shield, and the Holy Spirit to lead them into all truth in order to be reconciled back to God.
I believe we can be shown our likeness in the spirit in comparison to all of the characters hereon, whether good or bad, just as John the Baptist went in the spirit of Elijah.
I have opened my Bible many times to find that the Lord is speaking to me from the Scriptures, even though the carnal mind would tell me that it was someone the Lord was speaking to a few thousand years ago.
I am not sure if I have been able to explain to you fully what I mean, but I am still learning - and find that the more I seek, the more I find.
There is something in my mind regarding Genesis ch. 6
which appears to go together with what I believe about the scriptures after ch. 5 speaking to the 'born again believer', because it is only here that sons of God and daughters of men are spoken of, which reflects to me the allowing of our Spiritual mind being attracted back to the flesh instead of 'putting to death the things of the flesh'.
I have nowhere near got the whole picture, but I don't believe any one of us have
Brenda,
ReplyDeleteIt is amazing how one book can give so many difference messages to the reader. It says so much about the author. Only a supernatural God with supernatural powers can do such a thing.
The other day, a friend and I were just discussing the seven levels of a perfect Biblical interpretation. In Hebrew, the first four foundational levels are the P'shat (literal), Remez (hinted), D'rash (allegorical or figurative) and Sod (mystical). However, there three additional levels to complete God's message to us, communicative, numerical and hidden. There is one snag to this, all levels must not conflict with the literal and literal is where you get sound doctrine.
It is amazing when you start studying God's Word, using the seven levels, it really comes alive and speaks to you and answers so many questions within the church today.
Brenda, you said, "Paul,
ReplyDeletethe church is the bride of Christ, and the marriage causes them to be one, just like the first Adam was one with Eve. However, that does not take away God, just like God was not taken out of the picture, so to speak, when the first Adam and Eve were formed."
Adam and Eve were one, ONE what?
The Church and Christ are one, ONE what?
Jesus and the Father are one, ONE what?
N.D. You said, "In the case of Adam and Eve and their descendents, it has to be a man. If this wasn’t true, then why didn’t God just say, “OK, Adam and Eve, I forgive you. Let’s start anew."? The reason is that even though that would have shown he is a merciful God, it would not have shown that he is a just God. He required a blood sacrifice of an innocent man for their disobedience."
ReplyDeleteYes, it has to be a man, but that man was the Lord God Himself, Jesus Christ of Nazareth who sacrificed Himself on the cross, but four thousand years later.
Adam and Eve were at the beginning and the the first blood that was shed was not a man but a beast.
You said,
"OK, Adam and Eve, I forgive you. Let’s start anew."?
Well brother, the Lord Jesus did a lot better then that.
Because the Lord arranged the fall of perfect Adam, therefore He took the punishment upon Himself for the sake of justice and not mercy. It is justice that must be made or carried out, and the punishment that was due to Adam fell upon the Lord Jesus Christ.
Yes Paul,
ReplyDeleteThe first Adam,(a living soul) whom God formed from the dust of the earth, and Eve were one as a couple that could produce children, only fleshly children, that would not have eternal life.
The second Adam, (a life giving Spirit) whom God caused to be born through His Holy Spirit
as related in Luke ch. 1 vs. 34 and 35:-
'Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.'
and the church are one in the Spirit, and the children born are of the Spirit, as spoken of in John ch.1 vs. 12 and 13:-
'But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God'
Regarding Jesus and the Father Paul, they - God the Spirit - Jesus, the Word of God made flesh- are One in the Spirit, the Ones who made mankind ( man and woman already formed in the flesh) in their image (mankind in the flesh, but re born of God's Spirit)
As it says in Romans ch. 8 v. 29 Jesus was the firstborn of many brethren, and please do not say that He was the first Adam because the first Adam sinned and Jesus was without sin, and was a man born of God's Spirit two thousand years ago.
Jesus prays in John ch. 17 vs. 20 - 22:-
"I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;…'
This prayer is to make us all One - God - Jesus - the church. Does that make the church God? No, it makes the church One in the Spirit WITH God.
All praise to Jesus, our mediator, and Glory to God, our eternal Father.
Paul,
ReplyDelete"Yes, it has to be a man, but that man was the Lord God Himself, Jesus Christ of Nazareth who sacrificed Himself on the cross, but four thousand years later."
Honestly, I think we are saying the same thing. The only difference is that God being a man is not possible due to the nature of the two. God is perfect, sinless, righteous and just and even though Y'shua (Jesus) was a perfect man, he was made sin for us all. 2 Cor 5:21
God and sin cannot mesh. God and sin cannot exist within the same entity. Even though I agree with you that God existed within Y'shua (Jesus) during his mission on earth, he could not exist within him when the sins of mankind were placed upon him. It's go against God nature and God does not violate his nature. Therefore, God had to withdraw himself from Y'shua (Jesus).
For me to entertain your position, you will have to demonstrate how God and sin can be one, which makes me shutter to even put down into words.
"Adam and Eve were at the beginning and the the first blood that was shed was not a man but a beast."
and
"Well brother, the Lord Jesus did a lot better then that."
On this, the scriptures agree with us and I give you a hearty, Praise God! and Amen!
As for your comment,
"It is justice that must be made or carried out, and the punishment that was due to Adam fell upon the Lord Jesus Christ."
Again, I agree and the scriptures agree with us.
However, I need a little clarification on the following comment.
"Because the Lord arranged the fall of perfect Adam, therefore He took the punishment upon Himself for the sake of justice and not mercy."
Are you indicating that God orchestrated the Fall of Man in order to demonstrate his justice?
Yes ND I agree with what you and your friend were discussing, although I have no knowledge of the original text.
ReplyDeleteThere is something about the overall view of Genesis ch. 5, 6 and 7 that reflects to me Spiritually of the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, and of the doctrine of baptisms, as spoken of in Hebrew ch. 6.
Even the number 8, as in how many people went into the ark, reflects a new beginning, re birth, being resurrected from the dead into eternal life.
Brenda,
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting that you mention the number 8, a new beginning. Building on that, I'm sure you know that Y'shua(Jesus) rose from the grave on the eigth day after he was presented as the Passover Lamb/Meshiach Nagai on the 10th of Nisan, making his resurrection on the 17th of Nisan. The 17th of Nisan is also the day that Noach(Noah) and his family rested safely on Mount Ararat. "Coincidentally" :-), the 17th of Nisan is also the day of the first Feast of First Fruits, Crossing of the Red Sea, etc., signifying the end of the old and the beginning of the new. Numerous historical events have occurred on the 17th of Nisan.
I didn't know any of this ND, but I find it amazing how the scriptures reveal God's plan of salvation for mankind right from the beginning.
ReplyDeleteHmmm......... I don't believe anything is coincidence, especially regarding what is written in the Bible, and I don't believe you do either (but I do not know how to put a smiley face in a post). Although I love writing on blogs there is much I have to learn about them, including the simplest of things.
Yes Brenda, Adam and Eve were one in union, but they were still two entities.
ReplyDeleteThe Church and Jesus are one in the Spirit, OK, but they are still many entities.
Now, 'Jesus and the Father are one, one what?' you said, "Regarding Jesus and the Father, they - God the Spirit - Jesus, the Word of God made flesh- are One in the Spirit, the Ones who made mankind ( man and woman already formed in the flesh) in their image (mankind in the flesh, but reborn of God's Spirit)"
Well Brenda, that is a big mouth full of words, and it is here where all your misconceptions start.
Why can't you say it simply as I do? Jesus and the the Father are ONE PERSON Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
But you start with the wrong assumption and call the Father and Jesus 'THEY'. They is a plural word, meaning TWO, but Jesus and the Father are NOT TWO, but only ONE! (Jesus).
And then you are saying that those TWO people or gods are one in the Spirit, and both gods made (created) mankind. I think that you are referring to Genesis 1:26.
Brenda, how can those two god-persons be one in the Spirit when God is the Spirit (John 4:24)?
No Brenda, absolutely NO!
You said, "This prayer is to make us all One - God - Jesus - the church. Does that make the church God? No, it makes the church One in the Spirit WITH God."
That means ONE in union! One in union are always many.
But Jesus and the Father are NOT one in union (one in union needs to be TWO), it means that Jesus IS the Father, ONE person (singular, 'HE').
Why do you have a problem to believe in the Lord Jesus?
I think that you are a very intelligent person and surely you should know better than that. I think that you must be able to see that, do you?
Let me say it again, you are transgressing the first commandment of the Lord. 'You shall have no other gods before ME' ! (singular).
Also, you are transgressing the second commandment of the Lord, 'You shall not worship them or serve them; for I the Lord your God, am a jealous God....... . Exodus 20:3 + 5.'
Well Brenda, you need to deal with that great deception once and for all. There is NO back-door to escape and no Bible verse to justify your disobedience to the Lord.
The Word of God commands that you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and I cannot see any other way Brenda. You need to repent and CONFESS the Lord Jesus Christ before men, and then you are accepted by God, just as Jesus said, "If you confess Me before men, I will confess you before My Father who is in heaven".
Perhaps this is a good time; Yes Brenda, here on N.D's blog you can make a public confession that you, from now on forsake that other god called Yahweh and believe ONLY in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Yes, Just as I do, it's NOT difficult Brenda. You may get a lot of opposition and church people who will call you a heretic etc. but it's better to be known by God than to be told by the Lord Jesus, 'depart from me, I never knew you'.
Look Brenda, we all had to repent publicly, and confess our sins and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ with all our hearts and preach Him ONLY! It is Jesus who forgives us our sins and CLEANSES us from ALL unrighteousness, therefore it is worthwhile to become a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, and to be His witnesses (Acts 1:8) and not Yahweh's witnesses.
And remember the time is short, therefore I invite you and N. D. to join me in fulfilling the great commission of the Lord in making disciples to Jesus Christ and not to anyone else.
Well, it's your decision; I will support and stand with you and hopefully also with N.D. in everything concerning our Lord and only God Jesus Christ (John 17:3).
No N.D. we are not saying the same thing.
ReplyDeleteYou said that 'God being a man', I cannot say that because God is Spirit (John 4:24) and not a man. He became a man when He was born into His own creation, but not in your or my likeness, but in Adams likeness and for that reason He is called the second Adam.
You said, "For me to entertain your position, you will have to demonstrate how God and sin can be one, which makes me shudder to even put down into words."
You see, God and sin cannot be one, 'ONE' what? One in union? Or one and the same?
God is not sin; sin is that which we do, or is that which sinners do, and God was NEVER made sin for us all 2 Cor. 5:21, and neither was there any sin placed upon Jesus Christ; it is impossible to place our sins on someone else.
On the cross, the Lord Jesus Christ suffered the consequences FOR OUR sins, in other words, He has taken our place for punishment on the cross. The sufferings which was due to US fell upon Him and by His stripes we are healed.
The judge (Jesus Christ) declared that you and I are GUILTY of sin and need to be punished, but then the Lord Jesus (because of His great love for us) was willing to take our place on the cross.
And that's not all, Jesus had to deal with the sin of 'Eve' and Adam, which is called the original sin.
The original sin is the introduction or amalgamation of a second nature (the beast) into the perfect man whom God has created in His image.
Now for that reason God died on the Cross.
What does that mean, can God die?
YES, God can only die when He was clothed in flesh, or became a man.
Death means separation and not annihilation, therefore on the cross God died, His body was separated from the Spirit (who is God, John 4:24) which is called death. But death could NOT hold Him in captivity and He rose on the third day and now leads all His Children free who were hold captive by the fetters of death.
Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life, he who believes in Him will have everlasting life, and whoever who does not believe in Jesus Christ will never see life, but abide in death.
You said, "Are you indicating that God orchestrated the Fall of Man in order to demonstrate his justice?"
Yes my brother, I certainly do and know that the Lord God orchestrated the fall of man.
Do you think that the Lord was surprised when Adam and Eve sinned?
It is mature to think that the Lord Jesus who created everything including all powers and principalities would have had a plan to make His perfect creation imperfect and fall, don't you think so?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI wonder why you use so little scripture to back up what you say, and continue to try to explain everything with the carnal mind (as you yourself have stated is used in your August 18th comment)
Where Jesus speaks in parables, He speaks to those who are carnally minded, who do not have the mind of Christ (as in when we are born again).
When we are born again of God's Holy Spirit we go from the milk of the Word to the strong meat. God's thoughts are not our thoughts, and the Scriptures are discerned Spiritually.
When we receive the Spirit that is of God we do not use the natural mind, which contains mans' wisdom, to fathom spiritual things out:-
'.Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. '(1 Corinthians ch. 2 vs. 12 - 14.)
Brenda, the Lord hardly used any Scriptures and they did not believe in Him, do you think if I use a lot of Scriptures that they would believe in Him? I use enough Scriptures to prove and convince anyone who has a willing heart to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and turn away from any false god.
ReplyDeleteI read the same Bible as you or anyone else and I'm equally capable to quote the Scriptures just like the best.
Through many years of being an Ambassador for Jesus Christ and His Kingdom and walking closely with my Lord, I have learned to strike a tree at its roots.
My objective is that you and N.D. and whoever reads my comments would believe ONLY in the Lord Jesus Christ and in no one else, for the time of the coming of the Lord is at hand.
Look around you, and you will see the signs; starting first with the apostasy, which is the falling away from the Lord Jesus Christ to other gods like Yahweh or Jehovah etc. the so called Christian nations turning their desires to Sodom and Gomorrah (Homosexual Marriages), religious priests sodomizing little children under their care, all under the cover of Christianity, and there is much more, the wars and rumor of wars, the earthquakes and the list goes on and on.
Can you see Brenda? The time for playing church is OVER!
It's not a question of who has more Bible knowledge, it's a question of who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and who does not.
Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, believe not, and you shall be damned.
I do not wrestle against flesh and blood (against you), I wrestle against powers and principalities who hold you back in pits of darkness.
So, the moment you have come to the Lord Jesus Christ (but not half hearted), you have come to the LIGHT, and remember, that Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the light of this world, therefore you need to bear testimony to the light.
Perhaps you should start first with a decision. "How long will you hesitate between two opinions? If the Lord Jesus Christ is God , follow Him; but if Yahweh (Baal), follow him (1 Kings 18:21)."
Remember, it is the Lord Jesus who created the heavens and the earth and everything in it (John 1:3-10 and Col. 1:16), and you should know that there is no other creator than Jesus Christ.
Therefore it is important that you decide publicly and make a confession to believe in Jesus Christ our ONLY God.
And then to preach Him ONLY!
If you do, I will stand with you shoulder to shoulder in preaching Christ and Him crucified.
Also, I would like to ask N.D. to join us in preaching Christ and to be His disciples.
Look Brenda, it's not complicated, it's easy! But we need to come to Jesus just a little children. By that, I do not mean being childish, but with a child like faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteJesus is the mediator between man and God, the Word of God who became flesh, the One whom God has made our Lord, the only begotten Son of God (although we are children of God, and brethren of Jesus as Jesus Himself states when we too come to Him and are born of the Holy Spirit), and all children have to have a Father. It is God the Father who has made Jesus our Lord.
Of course I can only preach Christ crucified, and that is what we preach to those who do not know Him, although no man can come to Jesus except he is called by God, and no man can come to God except through Jesus.
That is why, as far as blogging is concerned, I say in my profile that I have a blog for those who know Jesus, my brothers and sisters, and those who do not know Jesus. When I go out into the street with the leaflets that I know the Lord brought me to put together, with my friend who does the same, it is Christ who is preached, and I have to say that we get a wonderful response from people who are searching.
Once a person comes to the Lord then it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit that unites that person to God, not man. One plants, one waters but it is God who adds the increase (through Spiritual enlightenment).
There is a time for being spiritually re born, a time forf the milk of the Word and a time for strong meat Paul.
John ch. 16 vs. 25 - 27 state:-
These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but will tell you plainly of the Father. In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I will request of the Father on your behalf; for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from the Father.…'
Every scripture links together Paul, when we take anything from them then there
I have not read many of your posts Paul, nor have I read many of ND's posts, but I would like to do so of both, so that I shall come to know a little more of you both.
Brenda, the reason you do not understand the Scriptures is, that you believe in a false god called Yahweh, he is the one who constantly leads you astray. He is the god who sits in the temple of God proclaiming himself to be god, he is the one who said, "I will raise my throne above the stars of God, I will make myself like the most High,....... . (Isa. 14:13-14)."
ReplyDeleteLook Brenda, in your preaching you are portraying the Lord of glory Jesus Christ of Nazareth as a DOORMAT, so that everyone who wants to come to this false god called Yahweh, needs to walk over the doormat (Jesus), and only then, he or she is with the real god whom you called Yahweh.
Sometimes I wonder why you can't see that, and then I remember that it is the god of this world (Yahweh) who has blinded the minds of those who don't believe in Jesus Christ.
Brenda, don't think that I hate you, to the contrary, I love you as a brother loves a sister and my aim is to win you for Jesus Christ alone, otherwise you have run the race in vain.
I do not run the race with unbelievers, but ONLY with those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and if some have gone astray (like you and N.D.), I try to help or reconcile them back again to the author of life Jesus Christ.
That should not only be my commission of reconciliation, but also yours and N.D.s.
Therefore the calling and the drawing is from the Lord so that you both would be reconciled to Jesus Christ, and forsake all other gods including Yahweh.
Brenda, it is crucial for you to make a public decision of repentance and say that you are willing to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and forsake all other gods, especially Yahweh. The knowledge and insight into the Scriptures comes after and not before.
The moment that you will believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, He will lead you into all the truth, and the entire Bible will open up to you in a new and wonderful way you never thought possible.
Only if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you have the mind of Christ and apart from Christ you have a carnal mind.
Therefore to day is the day of salvation, do not harden you heart and put it off for tomorrow.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI believe you are very close to blasphemy in trying to say that God the Father is the one spoken of in Isaiah ch. 14. The one spoken of here is called Lucifer, which means 'light bearer'., the son of the morning who fell from Heaven. Verse 16 describes him as:-
......... the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;'
We who are Christians are light bearers Paul.
Please show me where I have described Jesus as the' doormat' . I portray what scripture says as Jesus being the 'door' to the Father.
Without coming to Jesus we could not even communicate with God. He is the bread of the face. Moses could not see God's face, but we can see it reflected in Jesus, the express image of God, and can hear God speak because Jesus is the Word of God that became flesh. Because Jesus has paid the penalty for our sins we can be reconciled to God the Father through Him.
I have already been won for Jesus Paul, and now do the work that I am being called to do, the work that the Holy Spirit has given me to do.
I can not imagine how anyone would listen to someone who has discounted so many scriptures, and think that they could be taught by them. However, what matters is that we all do what the Lord has called us to do.
We can only introduce others to Jesus, it is then the Spirit of God that does teaching and maturing in Christ and I would hope that everyone who reads any of our blogs would go back to the scriptures and see if what we are saying is written there.
Paul,
ReplyDelete"He became a man when He was born into His own creation,..."
So you are saying that God is sinful?????? 2 Corinthians 5:21
"God is not sin; sin is that which we do, or is that which sinners do, and God was NEVER made sin for us all 2 Cor. 5:21, and neither was there any sin placed upon Jesus Christ; it is impossible to place our sins on someone else."
Are you saying the Bible is not telling us the truth? You cannot change what the scriptures say. 2 Corinthians 5:21
"God can only die when He was clothed in flesh, or became a man.
So, he was a man?
"Death means separation and not annihilation, therefore on the cross God died, His body was separated from the Spirit (who is God, John 4:24) which is called death."
So, you are saying, there are two individuals in the Godhead?
"Yes my brother, I certainly do and know that the Lord God orchestrated the fall of man.
So, in conclusion, you are saying that God is a sinful, denigrative and malevolent man/god, who wields power over us for his own purposes, enjoyment or entertainment? Once again, I must say that sounds like ALLAH, or Thor, or some other mythical god, man has devised, not what the scriptures tell us.
Brenda and Paul,
ReplyDeleteMay I ask you both a quick question? Who is the power behind misquoting or changing scripture to fancy his needs?
Brenda,
ReplyDelete"We can only introduce others to Jesus, it is then the Spirit of God that does teaching and maturing in Christ and I would hope that everyone who reads any of our blogs would go back to the scriptures and see if what we are saying is written there."
No truer words have been spoken. Amen Sister!!!!!
ND I was only thinking of this when I read Paul's last comment to me. I could not believe that a person who calls himself a believer could write what was written there about YHWH, Father God. However, we do not war against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age.
ReplyDeleteThe power you speak of, who is behind misquoting or changing scripture to fancy his needs is the liar and deceiver - Satan.
I have just come over to your blog because it was on my mind to tell Paul that I did not feel easy about having this discussion on your blog as there are an awful lot of long comments from both Paul and myself.
I am now not sure if there is anything more to say anyway. I will leave it up to you ND.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI hope and pray that you are misquoting or changing scripture and inferring that Yahweh is Satan, because English is your second language. I hope and pray that you just don't understand what your are actually saying and it is not what you actually believe.
If not, then Brenda is correct is saying that you are guilty of blaspheming the name of the Lord.
Please, my friend, you are so close to committing the only unpardonable sin, blaspheming against the Spirit of God. Please stop and go back to the scriptures before saying anything else.
IT IS NOT SCRIPTURAL. IT IS NOT FROM GOD.
You need to stop listening to anyone who is feeding you this garbage and get back to God's scriptures. It is only by Spirit of the One and Only God and his Word that you can find the truth about your salvation, through his only Son, Y'shua, Jesus.
Please!!!!! Again, I implore you to re-access before you lose your eternal salvation.
I want you to know that I'm always here, if need questions answered. I do not wish to offend and it is out of Agape, when I say that you are way out of line and way off base in your belief system. I'm a firm believer that the only way to God is through his son, Y'shua(Jesus). However, the scriptures show that God will save who he wants to save. My prayer is that, if you are following your path, because it is not God's Path, that he will choose to save you because you have acted out of ignorance. May God Bless You and Bring You to your knees in forgiveness.
Brenda,
ReplyDeleteI understand. There are a lot of his comments that make me wince and say, "Surely, he does mean that."
I hope and pray that you will come over visit the blog occasionally as I will surely come and visit yours.
Your Brother in the Messiah,
Keith
I say 'Amen' to your prayer for Paul Keith. I have a brother called Keith, who lives in Australia, and now I have a brother in Christ called Keith too.
ReplyDeleteGod bless you, and I will come over and visit your blog. I want to look up your older posts too.
Brenda and N.D, I do not chase red herrings so to speak.
ReplyDeleteOur debate is, whether the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth, or perhaps an other god whom you call Yahweh?
I maintain the position that the Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY God of all creation portrayed in the Bible, and the only saviour, and the only Name, and any OTHER is a false god.
In contrast you do not acknowledge the above and that Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord God our Father who is in heaven, but maintain that there is another god called Yahweh.
Where does that say in the Scriptures?
What did this god called Yahweh do?
Where is his name mentioned in the Bible?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI believe it just as it says clearly in 1 John 5, vs 6 - 12 :-
'Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God. Whoever loves someone who is a parent loves the child born to the parent. This is how we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep God’s commandments. This is the love of God: we keep God’s commandments. God’s commandments are not difficult, because everyone who is born from God defeats the world. And this is the victory that has defeated the world: our faith. Who defeats the world? Isn’t it the one who believes that Jesus is God’s Son?
This is the one who came by water and blood: Jesus Christ. Not by water only but by water and blood. And the Spirit is the one who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. The three are testifying—the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and the three are united in agreement. If we receive human testimony, God’s testimony is greater, because this is what God testified: He has testified about His Son. The one who believes in God’s Son has the testimony within; the one who doesn’t believe God has made God a liar, because that one has not believed the testimony that God gave about his Son. And this is the testimony: God gave eternal life to us, and this life is in His Son. The one who has the Son has life. The one who doesn’t have God’s Son does not have life.'
The rest of the chapter goes on to speak very obviously about the connection between God and His Son:-
'I write these things to you who believe in the name of God’s Son so that you can know that you have eternal life. This is the confidence that we have in our relationship with God: If we ask for anything in agreement with his will, he listens to us. If we know that he listens to whatever we ask, we know that we have received what we asked from him. If anyone sees a brother or sister committing a sin that does not result in death, they should pray, and God will give life to them—that is, to those who commit sins that don’t result in death. There is a sin that results in death—I’m not saying that you should pray about that. Every unrighteous action is sin, but there is a sin that does not result in death.
We know that everyone born from God does not sin, but the ones born from God guard themselves, and the evil one cannot touch them. We know we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. We know that God’s Son has come and has given us understanding to know the one who is true. We are in the one who is true by being in his Son, Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. Little children, guard yourselves from idols!'
The idols spoken of here can often be false teachers of false doctrines that some choose to believe in.
Anyone who does not see the connection between God and His Son here takes away from scripture and CHOOSES to be blind.
Sorry Keith,
ReplyDeleteI forgot that I intended to leave no more comments to Paul on your blog. From now on I will only answer him on his own blog, and that is only if the Lord leads me to.
Brenda,
ReplyDeleteNo apologies needed. Whether you answer him on this blog or another is by the leading of the Spirit, and who am I to get in the way of that? As I said before, my hope and prayer is completely in line with God's Will in this matter, in that all "petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people", "...that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the MAN Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time." 1Tim 2:1-6
Therefore, please utilize any forum to advance the Kingdom of God, as the Spirit leads.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI hope you see my issue here.
First of all, the scriptures clearly state that to be saved, you must believe, confess and continually testify that the Lord Y'shua(Jesus) has been sent to mankind to be a testimony of God's salvation for us all, that he died as the prophesied Sin Offering and was raised from the grave as the firstborn of the dead. My hopes and prayers is that you, Brenda and I have done that.
Secondly, Y'shua(Jesus) also told us that if you attribute the power behind him as Satan, then you are guilty of the unpardonable sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Finally, red herrings are one thing but to completely ignore scripture such as 1Tim 2:5 and attributing YHWH as Satan shows me that if you are a child of God, then you have strayed far from his side. Again, my hopes and prayers is that all our eyes are open to the truth, especially you, for you are treading on very thin ice.
Brenda, I read the same Bible as you, and I believe the Scriptures, and I also know the author of the Scriptures, His Name is Jesus Christ! He is also called 'The Word of God'.
ReplyDeleteYes it is Jesus who is called the Christ, and it is Jesus who created everything ALONE (Isa.44:24), and it is Jesus Christ who does not share His glory with ANOTHER (Isa. 42:8 + 48:11), and it is Jesus who said, 'Before Me there was NO God formed,and there will be NONE after Me (Isa.43:10).
Now, please tell me, what did this god Yahweh do?
You have a Bible, and I give you both of my ears, I'm listening.
If there is only one God, then it follows that ANY OTHER god is a false god; there is no other way Brenda.
In the Bible, the true God is the Lord Jesus Christ (Jer. 10:10 and 1 John 5:20) and any other god is called a false god, called god of this world (the devil) (2 Cor. 4:4), yes Brenda, it is the devil and the whole world believes in him (John 12:19 and Rev.12:9).
Again, who is this OTHER god whom you call Yahweh? Where in the Bible is his name recorded?
The Lord Jesus Christ is called the Father (Isa. 9:6 John 14:9 John 10:30 Isa.63:16 and many more).
Do you believe the Scriptures or what?
Or do you believe those who believe in another god with a name 'Yahweh'?
The Lord Jesus said, "You shall call Me, My Father, and not turn away from following Me" (Jer. 3:19).
Why do you call Yahweh Father instead of the Lord Jesus Christ?
What is holding you back?
Brother Keith, concerning the four letters in Exodus 'YHWH', I have been giving you a clear answer.
ReplyDeleteWhat do those letters mean? What does it say?
Does it mean that you can invent some kind of meaning? Or some kind of a name?
You can not even pronounce it or say it.
The Lord Jesus did not give you His Name in Exodus and neither did He give His Name to Moses.
By the way, who do you think was speaking in the burning bush?
Perhaps to you that was an unknowable god called 'Yahweh', but Moses knew the Lord Jesus face to face, he just didn't know His Name, because His Name was not given in the Old Testament till God (Jesus) was born through a virgin into His own creation (Mat.1:21) 'You shall call his name JESUS'!
Jesus said, that Moses was writing about Him and NOT about Yahweh (John 5:46).
Tell me brother, 'which God appeared in a body and was taken up to heaven' (1 Tim. 3:16)?
Surely it wasn't Yahweh.
It was the Lord Jesus Christ and NOT Yahweh.
Yahweh is NOT in the Bible, you made that up, and that does not give you the right to believe in a god who is not in the Bible.
The Bible God is the Lord Jesus Christ and NO OTHER!
In Isaiah 43:11 the Lord Jesus said, 'Apart from Me is NO SAVIOR!
So then, can Yahweh save? Absolutely NOT!
Only the Lord Jesus can save. Jesus is the Lord and not Yahweh.
There is no more I will say here, it is the Word of God that is our judge.
ReplyDeleteYes Brenda, there is a lot of things you can say and must say.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, you MUST confess the Lord Jesus Christ before men.
By that I mean JESUS CHRIST alone and NO OTHER! NOT Yahweh!
You need to preach Jesus Christ alone, or else, you preach a false god and have transgressed the first and the second commandment of the Lord.
But before all that, you need to repent!
You need to see and understand that you are preaching a god who is NOT in the Bible and neither is his name in the Scriptures.
To say so, is a sin! and the only way is to confess that sin and then the Lord Jesus is faithful and just to forgive you that sin and to cleans you from all unrighteousness.
Yes Brenda, I know that the word 'Repent' is a dirty word among Christians in our days, but it is a necessity which is before salvation.
So, therefore do not harden your heart as those who perished in the wilderness, but be eager to repent.
Brenda, I consider you to be an intelligent smart woman, and you know exactly what the Lord is saying to you.
I am a representative of Jesus Christ and I expect you and brother Keith to be also one of His disciples who preach Christ Jesus alone and NO other.
The moment you and Keith have repented (publicly, for all of us to see), you will have great opposition, but I will stand with you shoulder to shoulder in Christ Jesus our Lord and ONLY God.
Remember, if the Lord Jesus Christ is for you or us, who can be against you or us?
Brenda, I have some questions.
ReplyDeleteYou said in your post and in your comment;
"Only a Father as loving as you could take my life's burden and carry me through …..."
(and comment)
"and praise our lovely Father God and His Son for the Comforter who does all the things you have stated."
Please tell me, is that loving Father, who took your life's burden, Yahweh?
Is he the creator of heaven and earth?
Can you show that to me in the Bible?
Again, the praise you give to your lovely Father God, is that Yahweh?
And to His Son, is that Jesus?
If so, do you give praise to both the Father God and to His Son for the Comforter who does all things.
Who is the Comforter who does all things?
What is the name of the Comforter?
Is he the creator of all things?
Is the Father God and His Son not capable to comfort us?
Why do they need a third person to comfort us?
It is reasonable to assume that, if the Comforter does all things, he must be the creator of heaven and earth.
Please can you show that to me in the Bible?
Assuming the Comforter did all things, what did the Father and His Son do?
Were they idle and watching the third person the Comforter doing all things?
Are all those three persons gods?
Or, is there only one person a god, and another person a creator and the third person a Comforter?
Or, do they share everything and help each other?
Please explain and show it to me from the Bible.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteif you do not believe what Jesus says, how will you believe anyone else. Look to see what the Bible says regarding this.
Brenda, you know that I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ with all of my heart and without restraint.
ReplyDeleteI believe every Word of God and I'm eager to repent when wrong.
What I'm saying is very important and I'm glad that you have not given up and rejected the correction of the Lord.
Remember, I do not represent myself, but Him who has given me the ministry of reconciliation.
As it is with most Christians, they suffer from various sicknesses and disease and calamities of every kind and seemingly they never ask the Lord Jesus concerning their problems.
They pray, but their prayers bounce back from the ceiling and nobody is going to listen.
Why??
Simply, they pray to the wrong god!
They think that they can pray to this false god Yahweh or Jehovah THROUGH a man called Jesus.
Brenda, who do you think is going to listen?
Yahweh?
The Father Yahweh?
Yahweh hasn't got any ears, he can't hear you Brenda.
Yahweh is a false god who can NOT heal you or anyone else, he cannot even save you.
Why do you believe and worship that imposter?
Do you think that the Lord Jesus is pleased with that? to the contrary, it is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Therefore be eager to repent and don't worry what anyone else says or thinks.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteI have had healings and miracles through the prayer of faith, these prayers were done by people who were taught by God and not by man. There is nowhere in the scriptures that tells us to trust in man for our healing. You know full well that I asked the Lord to teach me about sickness and healing, and He has shown me that there is a lack of faith in His church. Where do you go for your healing Paul? I pray that the gifts will come into the church as they are meant to be.
Yes Brenda, I know, that is because the Lord Jesus is good.
ReplyDeleteIn the Bible, all who came to Jesus were healed, there was not one who didn't get healed, I like to say it again, ALL who came to the Lord Jesus were healed without exception.
What do you think, has the Lord Jesus changed??
NO Brenda! The Lord Jesus does NOT change, He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
All who believe in Him will be healed, and the Lord Jesus can do better than just heal you from a sickness. If you were born with no arms and no legs, Jesus is able to put arms and legs there right in front of your eyes, or better, He can restore the body of Abraham to his original bones if he wants to.
Is there anything impossible for the creator of heaven and earth Jesus Christ of Nazareth??
Absolutely NO! Brenda.
The Lord Jesus hates nothing more than UNBELIEF!
You see, it is required from you to believe in Him (Jesus). Only those who believe in Him will be saved, and all who don't believe will perish.
Brenda, I don't like to see my brothers and sisters perish with sickness and disease. The Lord Jesus Christ is the only God who can save you, but you need to believe in Him ALONE! And in NO OTHER! That is because He is a jealous God.
He doesn't tolerate you having a relationship with another god and teach others to do the same.
No Brenda! The time is short, trust in the Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding.
The Lord is good and does not give us a burden we can't carry, but His yoke is easy and His burden is light, therefore turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
It's not Einstein's theory, it's a simple decision from your heart and followed by actions. The actions are, that from now on you believe only in Jesus Christ, every post and every comment you make, you preach and promote the Lord Jesus Christ and you condemn every other god.
The Lord Jesus Christ will be with you and lead you into all the truth.
There is a time to heal Paul (Ecclesiastes ch. 3 v. 3) and you have not answered my question 'Where do you go for your healing Paul?'
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